i had lucien at 35 ( i think) i consider that late knowing the diffrent stresses carrieying then birthing a child would have on my body......Also and equilloy important the chances that their may be something not quite right with a child birth so late in the mothers life.....I had to be and was sure that regardless of potencial physical mental disabilities that i would be able to welcom the god given child that was afforded me....

Lucien has r as a non biological brother he is 20 and 3 biological steap siblings but again they are older

I greave that he as yet dosent have a sibling to grow up with, to love or hate to fight and maybee even compeat with....i don't want him to be alone without parents early in his life, this and my own need for a child is pushing me forward to have children at lest one more if i have the chance biologcally....i hate to think of him as alone in the world when i am gone...He wont totally be with the other siblings but their a diffrent type of tie with one you grow with...

I also have a few frends that are more like family to me than my own family have been theas are important people in his life and mine...

it's hard balancing the needs of the potencial child with the needs or drives of a mother....I know it sends some women nuts not being able to have anymore kids or even any kids at all....When you think that for some women it's the bigest biological drive that we have the one to reproduce...it's without conciseness and probibly irrational, like so many things that dwell within the emotional levels of our being....

Whats no one has mentioned is what the extended family of this woman is like. Dose she have an close extended family wear the child will grow up closly with other mebers of the family that are his or her same age even though they may be nices or great nices or whatever....

Perhapps this women was just driven nuts with the drive of needing to have more kids ...and when we driven nuts sometimes we think more of ourselfs and are selfish sometimes not....

I think this women needs to be viewed in the larger contect of her spacific family situasion....it's not the same but video and other recording technology has the potencial for all of us to be known in a way thats much diffrent from our predecesars....i would of loved a video of my own mother as a young women to see how she moved and how she sounded instead of photo's. This is possible for this mother still to comunicate in this way with her child....

In all respects the child may lose a mother early on in life.....but perhapps their an extended family to love and harbour the child as it grows ibnto adulthood.

I don't and wont judge this woman i don't know her full circumstancies...And the bigger point that i have achived many great things in my life and overcame a lot but despite it all the greatest thing is bringing godess given life into this world and then raising him.....if this drive is strong in the young it can be just as strong in a 66 year old women....biology for all our intecect and inteligence is a strong force in our lifes and as women our biological purpise is to reproduce...think this still underlies a lot in our life....Maybee just complimenting evertything else we jugle in terms of carrier etc....

Hope this didn't sound too prechie but hope for the sake of the child it's surrounded in good loving people regardless of weather they are related or not...phewwww big post eh!

celtic_flame