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#153876 - 07/20/08 01:05 PM
Re: Anorexia Nervosa and my cast member
[Re: Edelweiss]
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EW Striving to be something that is for someone else and not for oneself is so stressful.Academic parents who wish their child follow them. with a practical child for example.A child goes so far along the road then the rebellion can be shown as this illness. So I applaud all achievemnts..from finger painting through to school work.Damce art music..it is that childs unique best.And praise her friends in her hearing.Build the inner confidence that Anniya is loved whatever and however she achieves. ignore the negative praise the real good try.Be a good citizen .as you are already. I took my daughter to a dance class.purely for fun and mixing.The look in some mothers eyes as they looked us over...it was Scottish dance and even the kilts they wear are compared..I recognised a competitivness that was not healthy.Even when the mothers were being "kind" to their child is wasn't real. We found another place to go... Mountain ash
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#153877 - 07/20/08 02:51 PM
Re: Anorexia Nervosa and my cast member
[Re: Mountain Ash]
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Registered: 01/21/07
Posts: 3675
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
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Dancer I hope you find a way of dealing with the young woman. Best to approach as an older woman/dancer mentor rather than the pseudo-therapist route.
Would be good for her to have a coffee with you occasionally.
A good friend's sister's daughter ended up in the hospital with aorexia. She was 16 yrs. I am not certain what the family dynamics there were.
Treatment for anorexia and bulemia takes many months and it does involve counselling and supervision at stay-care facilities. A friend of mine did her social work internship at a eating disorders facility that was part of a teaching hospital. So I heard informally some of the treatment approaches.
A child needs to know from the start that if they fail at something they love to do, it doesn't mean others think less of them.
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#153878 - 07/20/08 08:22 PM
Re: Anorexia Nervosa and my cast member
[Re: orchid]
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Registered: 04/16/07
Posts: 2411
Loc: Arizona
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I agree with all you say, Orchid. The disease is, from what I have learned from my own 15 years of treatment and my close friend being a Psychiatrist, is a complex one.
From what I understand, it can have many layers, and not one difinitive answer, such as an abusive childhood.
The treatment is also complex and requires inpatient, as you were saying, in most cases as I understand it.
The truth is that this is a young woman, not a child. However I have met her mother and the \ stressing of achievement in the family as well as the reaching for perfection were obvious and glaring for all to see.
I had more information about family life.
Three girls, all adults. They have dinner together, with their S.O.'s every Sunday as they go to church. They invited me for dinner.
The young womens favorite movie has been Pride and Prejudice, and they are named "Bennet," as in the movie. They told me how much they related to the movie.
If you recall, those girls "made good," despite the odds against them in society. They "raised themselves up," in a world that almost out classed them entirely.
It was telling. I have been involved with this family once before when I put up a play in Seattle and one of the leads was the youngest daughter, a very talented and trained vocalist. I now have to deal with the older, as luck would have it. When the younger daughter did not get enough solos in highschool because of what she felt was nepotism, she went out of the school system and joined a choir that would allow her more attention. The thing is that with my trained ear, the girl getting most of the solos was most definately the better vocalist.
This is telling.
Thank you for your interest and I probably will stay with this young woman's progress even if I have to fire her.
Her understudy is a "cheer leader" type and happy as can be. It is tempting to fire the young woman, Kirsten.
Dancer 9, with dance drama.
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#153882 - 07/21/08 05:14 PM
Re: Anorexia Nervosa and my cast member
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Thin is and always has been "In". Young girls are swamped with TV Hollywood Stars, Magazine Covers and Skinny Peers. Unfortunately it always has and always will be this way. Dancer, I hope you can help this woman.
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chick ~ Here is the test to find whether your mission on Earth is finished: if you're alive, it isn't ~ ~ Prayer is the most we can do for another human being ~
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#153884 - 07/24/08 09:40 PM
Re: Anorexia Nervosa and my cast member
[Re: dancer9]
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The Divine Ms M
Registered: 07/07/03
Posts: 4894
Loc: Orange County, California
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A feminist take on anorexia: it is a "disease" of choice, where girls/women believe that they are not good enough, for whatever reasons. The reasons may be society-at-large, the media, their religion/culture, or their particular family dynamics. Anorexia is a way of controlling one's body, in a situation where the person feels they don't have much control in anything else.
As such, I'd expect that anorexia rates are higher in abusive families, and in families/cultures where women are considered 2nd class or subservient to men. It's about the woman taking control in any way she can, even if that way is destructive. She's destructive because she already feels destroyed (whether that feeling is justified or not.)
It also ties in with an unhealthy competitiveness -- where the fewer choices one has, the more important "success" in these choices becomes.
Just my observation, and it doesn't solve anything. Dancer, your kindness and care for this young woman shines through.
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#153885 - 07/25/08 07:19 PM
Re: Anorexia Nervosa and my cast member
[Re: meredithbead]
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Registered: 04/16/07
Posts: 2411
Loc: Arizona
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Meredith: Competitiveness it is, between these sisters and thier mother, as you mentioned, is behind this. I have gotten to know this family as they have pulled me in, "get in with the choreographer," is the game. I see three sisters who play off eachother and their mother. Each is gifted in an area but the one I am dealing with has bnot shown any success after graduating highschool. The one younger than her has made her parents glow by going to BYU, their dream for her. The youngest has an opera voice that is being well trained, is beautiful and tall. She is also the baby of the family so she is well attended to. She has had many community theater parts as I understand. The mother has an immaculate home and has gone back to school, so this sister is "average," and drops out of college to work for "bebe," where the clothes are obscene and get's thinner and thinner in competition with her sisters and co-workers. She is doomed in this production because she does NOT stand out and will be just a "player," because of it. I would like to help her to improve but she has one trait: Stubborness, that will stop her from listening.
She came to work with a tiny belly of food. I let her work. I just have to keep watching.
By the way, her family cooks one hell of a salmon dish.
Dancer.
( I'm in Seattle, did I tell you that?)
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