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#14187 - 12/24/05 07:37 PM Re: How can I help this woman?
Daisygirl Member Registered: 08/25/05 Posts: 1052 Loc: Ohio	Chatty, I realize my conversation with her may not open her eyes at all. My main concern is that she wants to get a dog and I'm concerned for the welfare of the animal. Daisygirl
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#14188 - 12/25/05 05:26 AM Re: How can I help this woman?
chatty lady Writer Registered: 02/24/04 Posts: 20267 Loc: Nevada	Oh brother just what some poor animal needs. Hopefully you can talk her out of it, messy, smelly, expensive etc. Those reasons though not especially true may diswade her....I hope so. [ December 29, 2005, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: chatty lady ]
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#14189 - 12/29/05 05:50 AM Re: How can I help this woman?
Casey Member Registered: 11/18/05 Posts: 789 Loc: Aptos, California	My ex- is an alcoholic and my son, 19, is a drug and alcohol addict who has been using on and off since he was 8. He's currently in jail. And I love him. And I have seen progress. Ironically, he's also seen progress in me. It's a fine line to love/like the person and hate the disease. To say, lovingly and kindly that you can't support someone in getting a dog and wish them well. To set boundaries that say, no, you cannot call me after you have been drinking, but please call any time you are sober. I pray for my son and ex-husband all the time. I also keep working on myself and the things that I need to do to improve my own life. As Di said, take what you like and leave the rest. (I love that saying!)
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#14190 - 12/30/05 05:23 AM Re: How can I help this woman?
chatty lady Writer Registered: 02/24/04 Posts: 20267 Loc: Nevada	Guess I was thinking only of the poor innocent dog and what it might have to go through being owned by someone who can't seem to care for herself yet. I am the one that usually has to pick up the pieces of these abused, neglected animals and believe me it isn't a pretty sight so forgive my less than fuzzy concern about the addicted person here.
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#14191 - 12/30/05 06:41 PM Re: How can I help this woman?
Daisygirl Member Registered: 08/25/05 Posts: 1052 Loc: Ohio	Chatty, IMO, a dog should not be with a person who cannot care for herself. I will do everything in my power to disuade this woman from getting the dog. For one thing, as long as people are not truthful with her she will continue her behavior. I promise I will be gentle and kind. Daisygirl
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#14192 - 12/30/05 09:03 PM Re: How can I help this woman?
Casey Member Registered: 11/18/05 Posts: 789 Loc: Aptos, California	Daisygirl, Thanks for caring for both the dog and the woman -- what a nice person you are! If what you say to her doesn't make a difference (and I am hoping it does), you can feel good knowing you did what you could. Blessings
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#14193 - 12/31/05 05:56 AM Re: How can I help this woman?
LuckyLady Member Registered: 12/27/05 Posts: 28 Loc: Deep in the heart of Texas	ChattyLady, I feel as you do. I rescued the most beautiful solid black Lab pup about 2 weeks ago and the whole ordeal ended yesterday. She belonged to a drug and alcohol addicted woman that couldn't care for her child much less the dog. It became a control issue, but the happy ending occured yesterday when my friend gave her a $500.00 cashiers check for the dog. My friend now has 21 dogs and cats! She does live in the country. We had a celebration lunch today. LL
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#14194 - 01/02/06 05:11 AM Re: How can I help this woman?
Daisygirl Member Registered: 08/25/05 Posts: 1052 Loc: Ohio	The lady who wants the dog went to visit her son over the holidays and he had a 6 mo. old black lab. he-he-he........ God is good! She is rethinking the dog thing and realizes now how much work it would be, especially since she lives in a condo. I reinforced that fact and other bad things about having a dog. No worries here.... Daisygirl
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#14195 - 01/03/06 03:54 AM Re: How can I help this woman?
deb k Member Registered: 12/21/05 Posts: 7 Loc: Midwest	Hi Dotsie Yes, he did show up at my brother's home. I was surprised and it was good to see him, as I fear he won't live much longer the way he lives. It was hard to see how much he has deteriorated. He looks so rough - no teeth (lost his choppers), rough skin and so skinny. I'm glad he came.
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