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#119988 - 06/02/07 05:34 AM
Re: Question
[Re: katebcca]
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Kate, I don't think you should let your daughter away with this at all. She is 15 years old, much, much too young to be making up her mind to ignore your wishes and stay out. She is a good kid and this is when you have to re-inforce your rules. She'll come around. If you allow tonight to go without incident, she may get the message that she can get away with it again. I remember the days with my daughters. Tough love it...I'd say.
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#119989 - 06/02/07 06:43 AM
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[Re: chickadee]
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Kate, I basically agree with the above comments.
The only thing where I have a problem with is grounding kids at that age. I think it stirs up more problems then the original problem.
You probably have done this all ready, but I'll suggest it anyway. I think you have better chances to change your daughter's tardiness with a plain heart to heart talk. Don't talk down to her, talk to her as if she were an adult. Don't wine or say how disappointed you are in her. Instead, first agree with her that you can understand if the classes are boring. Promise her you will look into it, and see if you can upgrade her curriculum. Don't fall in the role of the enemy, be her partner and helper. Tell her you don't want any grief with the school authorities and for them to meet her wishes, she has to first comply with the rules.
If there is no possibility to get your daughter in more challenging classes, then try it with praise, and that she should use the opportunity to shine in these classes if they are so easy and undemanding.
Visit colleges with her over a weekend, and show her that this can be her future is she does her best in school. I know that motivated my nephew the most.
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#119990 - 06/02/07 08:29 PM
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[Re: Edelweiss]
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Loc: Victoria BC Canada
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Well my night was terrifying. I did not hear from my daughter at all. Last I heard from her was at 5pm when she was told to come home. She said she was using a phone card and would call right back but she didn't. I couldn't call her back because she called from a pay phone.
I went with my son downtown to three movie theatres as she said that is where she was going, she wasn't there. I called all of her friends, I have their numbers on my cell phone. They didn't know where she was. She has started to hang out with a couple of different girls for the past few weeks.
I finally found out a number from one of the kids and luckily they knew a cell number of her friend. I called it but they said she was not with them but she would try to find out. Long story short, at 12:40am her friend called and said her Dad had gone to get them and he would drop my daughter off.
I had 15 minutes to decide what I would do. My first reaction was my mothers "Where the hell were you, what were you doing, how could you do this to me, make me worry etc etc. I calmed down and talked myself out of that reaction. I was so angry yet so upset as I had thought the worst. A friend said she was meeting a guy at the movies and I immediately thought he must be someone she met online and is a stalker or something. I know she's smarter than that so tried to calm down. It was such a helpless feeling especially since this was out of character for her.
She came home, I talked to her, tried to get her to open up but all she would say is that she realizes that she did wrong by making me worry although she didn't seem like it mattered to her. Her brother was upset to and kept calling all night. He was at a sleep over. When he finally reached her she wouldn't even talk to him. That upset him as he said he was worried and she doesn't even care.
Not much else was said other than she is grounded for the rest of the weekend and there is a fair on that she wants to go to but won't be able to. She is working all day today anyway so that punishment won't affect her too much. I don't ground for long, only one or two days. I know there may be more effective ways but by taking away privileges, (not going to the fair) at least there will be some consequence, there has to be.
Also, I found a small plastic bag with three capsules. They look like vitamins but are smaller. She doesn't take vitamins. They look like capsules filled up with powder, like herbs. Not sure what they are so am thinking of taking them to a drug store before I talk to her. She must notice them missing by now. My friend said they may be diet pills. Anyway, I will have to address this but then she will know I went through her bag, a dilemma. Kate
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#119993 - 06/02/07 10:52 PM
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[Re: katebcca]
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Registered: 01/21/07
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Loc: British Columbia, Canada
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She said she does not like her high school. She says the kids there (it's an inner city school) have no motivation to learn, there are alot of drugs, most of them slack off and smoke up right outside the school. She feels there are no rules and the teachers are not strict. She wants to go to another school. I want to be careful that she is not using this as an excuse. Does she want to become more studious, or does she want to go to a school where her new friends go? She has complained alot this year that the teachers couldn't care a less whether she goes or not, whether she hands in assignments or not. She doesn't feel that they care about her education. I talked to her about having inner motivation and not just blaming the school.
I did tell her that I would look into some of the other schools and that we could check them out over the summer. There are drugs in every high school but I think it's more accepted in her current school.
I hope to talk to her more about it. Kate
Has your daughter demonstrated within the last few years, good/very good academic marks in certain subjects? IF she is smart, she will be bored. She should be asked if you both find a school where her friends DON'T attend, would she be willing to sacrifice her friends for getting a "better" education somewhere else?
If not and if she is struggling, it's very difficult to understand how any school is going to help, if she doesn't motivate herself first.
Does she read on her own anything? I'm asking this...because it's the first signal if a child/teenager can have the concentration/focus to read books from start to finish. IF they can focus reading passionately on some books....that's an excellent, first sign they will succeed in completing their courses/education.
It's good that she is earning abit of money. As long as it doesn't interfere with her energy for school.
What are her current hobbies/interests? Feed that interest with her if you/she knows.
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#119994 - 06/02/07 11:38 PM
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[Re: orchid]
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ahhh kate never easie being a mum of a teen all the rules change...i agree with the ladies above about consiquinces, its important when their little and still so when there older. Consiquinces and taking seriouslie her view take on life both help as some of the others suggested, hart to hart with girles tend to be succesfull...a wee suggestion start and end with loving compliments...if they heer you love them first then the critisisum or rules are easier to talk about as barriers are broken dowen and they alreadie listening, then finish with loving words and hugs so she not left with bitter or neg self feelings and you get to rember how you love gher and as you said she basicalie a good kid. dating and boys especillie if she likes him, rember how powerfull those feelings weer at that age in her mind it might been worth the consiquinces of braking a grownding night just to date this lad.....it might be more situasional than anything major and neg pattern startting in her life. Anyway one good thing they grow out of it rember teenagedom dosent last for ever even if it feels timeless. With bert he kicked of at 18 he been an angel up till then, then was imposible and scarrie for a bit ...now he back on trake and gonna be 21 in 14 days or so. at the time it was hell lol and even looking back...but stay strong and i wish you the right type of skills and all the love in the world for you. I am whishing you a happie ending or even just a barible process going throw this stage in your and you d life. Rember your the mamma
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