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#112903 - 03/27/07 08:20 PM
984 or 1984
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Opponents of a new executive branch lobbying reform bill working its way through the U.S. House of Representatives warn that it will impede an ordinary citizen's absolute right to communicate with government officials.
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When Rep. Henry A. Waxman, chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform of the House, introduced H.R. 984, the Executive Branch Reform Act, last month, he promised it represented "good government" reform.
Critics, however, think it should be renumbered "H.R. 1984" because of the looming specter of an Orwellian "Big Brother."
Full article @:Waxman-Newsmax
Here's Waxman on the House floor
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#112906 - 03/31/07 04:11 PM
Re: 984 or 1984
[Re: meredithbead]
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What scared me about this bill is that it will limit our ability to communitcate with our representatives. If I read it correctly, Waxman has the bill on the House floor (already passed the Senate, I think). The bill disallows (makes it illegal) for people to incite groups to mail, email, picket, etc. their congresspersons with concerns. So, obviously when we get emails, asking us to write or contact are congressperson about things such as immigration, we are making a difference... we're creating a reason for them to bring on 1984.
More biblical prophecy coming to pass?
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#112909 - 03/31/07 08:26 PM
Re: 984 or 1984
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His intentions seem to be having records kept of all contacts with government officials. He seems to want to be able to get hold of all these records where "we, (the collective I)" as sway groups might influence the actions/decisions/votes of the representatives. The bill might be geared toward the religious right or the very liberal left, each of which has ways to get people to respond in mass. Regardless, being fired up by a movement enough to contact my representative (which I might not ordinarily do) should not mean my contact should be recorded somewhere (possibly to kept in a data base to tag me as some goose-lover*). If the bill passes, next thing they'll require of us is to include our SS# when we contact a representative. *Lame Example: Say, Senator X wants to stop geese from flying. A goose lover contacts every bird lover he knows, as well as all the organizations pertaining to birds. They appear on TV, radio, web pages and go to the local newspaper, asking everyone [us, the "private parties" who together potentially become the "significant contacts"] to write/email/call their representatives to contest Senator X's plans to stop geese from flying. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the bill passes, won't it be on record when someone (and who each someone is) contacts their representative? Quote:
... each covered executive branch official shall make a record of, and file with the Office of Government Ethics a report on, any significant contacts during the quarter between the covered executive branch official and any private party relating to an official government action.
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`(2) SIGNIFICANT CONTACT- `(A) ....the term `significant contact' means oral or written communication (including electronic communication)[E-mail] that is made by a private party [You and I] to a covered executive branch official in which such private party seeks to influence official action [Why else would you or I be contacting them?] by any officer or employee of the executive branch of the United States.
`(3) PRIVATE PARTY- The term `private party' means any person or entity, but does not include a Federal, State, or local government official or a person representing such an official.'.
The bill may not say "you will not be allowed to contact" but it sets up the grounds for not wanting to and/or being reluctant to. And, if this goes through, it will open the door to "you can not."
It's already evident that only a minor percentage of the population is involved in, or even care about, politics and government actions... that is until something adversely effects them... ~OR~ A movement GETS them INVOLVED...
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