yea religion and spirituality two diffrent things for me, i find it the biggest contradiction that all thats been horrible about religion (and it's been going on for centuary's) has been dune in the name of god....the loving god then you have their agents on earth doing pricisly the most unloving thing their is to do to other people.

The whole harted aim to instill fear or guilt into someone as a means to control their behaviour on earth gotta be in contradiction to whatever that higher powers purpise is....

Whatever religion you go to christion or not seems to be a commun unity regarding love and peace and respect for all others.

Then you get the prist like your mother got.....i think it's a human failling that we create laws then try and humiliate or terrifie followers into obidience.....consiquence for one's actions and hell fire and damnasion two diffrent things in my eye's.

i think and it's just my view that having people feel loved and secure and that they have personal choice and are acountable for their actions a better way for them to belive the love of god. and let them free to experience the world in all aspects of human nature.....becouse we all do wrong and even if at the time we dont feel it ...then later i certinly feel the consiquence of my actions...

I staye away from my own church ...but i served them for years and happily served them. I do get lonly for the company of others to talk bout spiritule things bout and as hannilore said nature a great comphort, i feel the presence of the devine their......I just had enough of you'r a sinner attitude or people's ego's getting in the way of any spiritule message. I am sure enough people have explaning why their such a turnning away from churches towards a more personal and solitory expression of spirituality.

I don't know how others reconcile the matter?