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#55229 - 12/28/05 01:41 AM
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Which of the referenced articles is from the conservative branch of the news media? Is there a conservative branch?
I don't know what you are saying President Bush and those under him admitted. He is not a liar and never has been. He tapped the phone calls of suspected terrorists and he said so. I and many other Americans believe he was right to do just that. Those who revealed that information to our enemies while we are war are viewed as traitors by many patriotic Americans.
Please be specific as to what issue was resolved on this topic. If you mean that Mr. Bush authorized tapping the phones of suspected terrorists, he was authorized by Congress to do what was necessary to defend our country and tapping those phone calls is necessary if we are to avert another 9/11. If that type of wire taps had been in place before 9/11, we might never have experienced the murder of thousands of our citizens.
Refering to statements by our leaders as lies is a conclusion, not a fact and it veers from the dignity of debate. Most of the articles referenced in this discussion are examples of conclusions reached by the liberal media unsupported by fact. Newsmen are supposed to report fact. It should be left up to the reader to reach conclusion.
I have only read the headline of the most recently referenced article, but I am personally delighted to know that secret surveillance is up since 9/11. We are at war. If surveilance of my phone calls will avert another mass murder, go ahead and listen to all my calls. Only those with something to hide and those looking for excuses to attack our leaders fear surveilance. I am one of the first to defend our freeedoms, but no one is free to plot another attack on our country. Nor should they be.
The terrorists themselves have repeatedly stated they represent the nation of Islam. Just as Texas and New york are states of the United States, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Iran are states of the Islamic nation. The real issue, however, is that we are at war. We are free to say what we like, but attacking our country from within is simply wrong.
Only when one is losing a debate is it necessary to use insults. There is nothing undignified about differing opinions. No one has called anyone a name or insulted anyone except our President who has been called various names including liar.
And saying 'prove it' is not an insult.
smile [ December 27, 2005, 10:56 PM: Message edited by: smilinize ]
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