Thank you, Sandpiper.
I love stories with a twist. It sounds like a movie I would enjoy very much.

Haven't seen either one, gee guess I need to get out more....LOL

I haven't seen that movie, but I want to.

I've had a lot of gay male friends over the years. I don't think any of them spoke with a lisp. I've always thought that was some sort of a stereotype. I went to my senior prom with a guy who was gay, although I didn't know it at the time. You would never have known by looking. He was one of the best looking boys I ever went out with. I was a lot more innocent in 1963 than I am now!

I don't mean to cover the Don Knotts thread but I find this topic of homosexuality interesting.

When I was young it was called "queer" and we had these stupid rules that if you wore green or pink on Thursday, you were a queer. The word gay didn't turn up until years later.

My former BIL seemed somewhat feminine in high school. He was always in school plays and chorus and didn't wear Levi's like the other guys but dress pants. He was heavily involved in church activities and my sister's only requirement in a future husband was that he was a Christian.

He was somewhat dramatic and flamboyant but he could make me laugh harder than anyone. We used to torment each other on family trips.

But, he led a double life and was involved in sex groups with same sex and different sex and ended up HIV. It all went downhill after that.

In the 60's, we never really thought or believed that people were gay. Of course, back then they had to keep it a secret while today, it's almost a prideful thing.

I know gay men who are very masculine and you would never know. I know gay men who walk like women and are very feminine in their talk and walk.

I don't judge gay people. I had grown so tired of it while growing up in a family that judged everyone and I refuse to do it anymore. I'm just curious about some of these things.

I don't look at being gay as any different than being an alcoholic or a drug addict or an overeater. In my opinion there is something heinous about being in NAMBLA or being a pedaphile. Its funny how we just can't keep from totem-poling sins. These things are all issues that people struggle with, maybe their thorn in the flesh, to see if they have the ability to trust God to help them overcome their affliction.

As long as I live I will

Oops! As long as I live I will believe that sin against your own body or someone else's is worse than any other and to do things that are unnatural to it in the realm of procreation and even in the arena of sexual pleasure, seems to be very unnatural.

To me a same sex partner is as much an enabler and a codependent as a married partner to an alcoholic or drug user.

I was glad to see that it did not get the Oscar for Best Picture. I read that it had only grossed $32 Million and that is peanuts in Hollywood.

Christina - Did you like the movie? I was not surprised it didn't win the Oscar for Best Picture. Crash was as safe a bet as the Oscar could do and still be considered controversal. I guess that film was about race relations in Los Angeles.

I think the amount grossed is considered pretty good for an independent film. I'm not sure what it takes for a film made by a regular company to be considered successful. Does anyone know the amount.

Anyway, I thought the entire evening was predictable, didn't you?

Sandpiper

I haven't seen Brokeback Mountain and doubt that I will. I don't particularly like the acting of Heath Ledger for starters and I am not so sure that this movie does not promote homosexuality even though the producers say that it does not. I'll go on record as saying that I don't believe that homosexuality is natural and should be mainstreamed as being such. I still think that heterosexuality is the natural sexual act.

None of the films nominated were box office successes, as such. Making money is not the only reason a picture wins an Oscar.

Crash was the only one of the nominees that I saw, so I can't make a comparison. I can say that it impressed me geatly. Both the writing and acting ensemble were superb. Aparently the Academy agreed with me.

I'm planning on seeing Brokeback Mountain as soon as I can. I refuse to pass judgement on anyone's sexual beliefs or practices.