I fear for that poor innocent child in all of this mish mash. That baby needs to be safe and if it means being taken away from er by child services than do it. Your son can prove paternity with a test to regain custody but in the mean time she won't have access to the baby and it will be safe. Those looney eople too often hurt the child to get even with the ones she hates, do it NOW, get that baby out of there Grandma.....

Right, Chatty! I fear that too but she hasn't actually done anything to warrant such drastic measures. She does work everyday, her other child attends school daily and the G-baby attends daycare on a reg. Although that's not to say what's simmering in that looney b-witched mind of hers, the authorities usually need more evidence. Unfortunately, sometimes that evidence is fatal. This one needs the prayer warriors for sure.

My son says that he's talking to her very cautiously. If this woman gets an inkling that he's just 'smoothing' things out until he can get his legal avenues together, I do fear that she will snap. My sister says that she calls constantly and is extremely possessive of his whereabouts, despite what just happened not even a week ago.

My Goodness! Where is peace? Since my love for my grandchild is involved, I am too. My plate was already much too full! Grrrrr!

Sug, I'm with chatty. Someone needs to be sure the child is safe. If this gal pulled a knife in a fit of rage, I wonder what she does if the baby cries too much, or doesn't comply. Very scary. I'd advise your son to get help with this situation. It puts you in a bad spot becasue he'll leave and go back to college and you'll be left holding the baby.

Congrats on your daughter's acceptance to those colleges.

What are you doing to get ready for the empty nest? Next year I'll have 2 high school Seniors. I'm preparing already. There's going to be a huge void. HUGE! But I plan on filling it with things my husband and I have been putting off for many years. I know the house will be QUIET, and that will be different. We have a loud house full of commotion.

That's nothing, compared to my son in law. He's the grandkids stepfather, but he's such a control freak that the family members have not been allowed to see them for 2 years now, and my daughter, the b-witch, allows him to do this. He abuses her and the 2 kids, drinks, does hard drugs and leaves stuff where kids can find it, and he smokes cigarettes around them, and he won't work. Social services has been in there 5 times, once because I called, and the other family members did too, and a couple neighbors called. My daughter dropped out of college to support this dude, and his daughter from another b-witch. I don't even get pics or talk to them on the phone. Do you girls know what a freak I feel like, sitting outside the fence at the elementary school, trying to take a picture of my grandson on the playground? To top it all odff, he's been to prison. Nice guy! I dream about shooting him. Angry Grandma Blaze

Oh Blaze, I'm so sorry you have to endure this type of pain. When I first started reading this, I just figured they lived a great distance away. What on Earth is SS saying or doing?

Well, what ever you do, don't make or let your dreams of shooting him come true. You probably wont ever be in your grandchildren's live then and only the devil knows who will replace your daughter's 'b-witch' of a man.

Right on. They live here in town. When the ss first went in, they moved 100 miles away for a year. They had ss called on them in Timberon, twice. None of the family did that. They moved back 6 months ago, and I haven't seen them since last summer. I'm not allowed. If I push it they'll just disappear, and I'm already searching for my birthdaughter without a net(money). grrr...homicidalbutsensible-don't worry.

If the SS won't help, and God knows why not, then drop a dime to the drug enforcement bureau of your police department and let them know about the drugs. Do it unanimously but say you think he deals. Maybe they might be able to do the trick and nail this creep..Hey hard situations take drastic measures...

Blaze, I'm going to start a thread for adotion searches. I hope you'll join in. I'll start it in the Children Forum.

Right on top of it bosslady!