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#41695 - 08/29/05 10:57 PM Authors' Marketing Services
Sigrid Macdonald Offline
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Registered: 01/20/05
Posts: 223
Loc: Ottawa, Ontario
How valid are the assessments on Predators and Editors? I sent out about a dozen query letters over the weekend to various agents in Ontario. Today I heard back from Authors' Marketing Services in Toronto. They sounded quite interested in my book but when I looked them up on P & E, they were not recommended. They also charge a reading fee of $395.

Does everyone here trust the P & E guidelines? Is it customary to pay a fee or is that something that I should avoid at all costs?

Thanks.
Sigrid

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#41696 - 08/29/05 11:42 PM Re: Authors' Marketing Services
Evie Offline
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Registered: 08/27/03
Posts: 791
Loc: Nipigon, Ontario Canada
Sigrid
I can't vouch for the P&E guidelines, but I know a lot of writer's recommend them and use them so I would tend to be very cautious about getting involved with something that did not receive a recommendation from their site.

I don't have enough experience to tell you whether it's customary to pay a fee or not, so hopefully someone else can answer that for you.

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#41697 - 08/30/05 12:13 AM Re: Authors' Marketing Services
Sigrid Macdonald Offline
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Registered: 01/20/05
Posts: 223
Loc: Ottawa, Ontario
Thanks, Evie. They seem to have a good reputation and I am inclined to trust them. That's so irritating because this agency expressed an interest in my novel.

Intuitively, I don't feel that we should be paying agents to read our stories. If the stories are good enough, they should stand on their own. Then the agents can take their fees from book sales.

It's just like book reviews. I don't want to pay anyone to review my book. Speaking of which, my book is being reviewed by three or four sources right now but they've had it for ever. What is a respectable amount of time for me to wait before I follow up with them?

Have a great week :-) Sigrid

P.S. Where is Nipigon?

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#41698 - 08/30/05 01:56 AM Re: Authors' Marketing Services
Pam Kimmell Offline
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Registered: 01/27/04
Posts: 1423
Loc: Warrenton, Virginia
Sigrid I have used P&E for years and know Victoria Strauss, the writer who maintains the database for them....she does extensive research and has based the info she posts on letters she receives from writers all over the world.

You of course need to follow your heart on your search for an agent but the rule of thumb (and I'm not just talking about on P&E) is not to pay a reading fee - and certainly that is one of the BIGGEST ones I've ever heard of!! Someone recently said that "time is money" for those reading all the query letters and I do believe that's true - but $395 is a LOT of money.

I wish you a LOT of luck though - and whatever you decide to do - make sure it's right for YOU - regardless what others may advise.

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#41699 - 08/30/05 01:58 AM Re: Authors' Marketing Services
author from Maine Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 58
Sigrid,

I'd stay away from any agent or editor who charges a reading fee. I've heard this from several industry professional over the years. It's easy to get caught up in the excitement of having someone love your work. Meanwhile think long and hard before dealing with this agent. Yes, I trust preditors and editors.

Diane

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#41700 - 08/30/05 03:52 AM Re: Authors' Marketing Services
Evie Offline
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Registered: 08/27/03
Posts: 791
Loc: Nipigon, Ontario Canada
quote:
Originally posted by Sigrid Macdonald:

P.S. Where is Nipigon?

Northwestern Ontario - About an hours drive East of Thunder Bay, along the Lake Superior shoreline at the mouth of the Nipigon River [Smile]

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#41701 - 08/30/05 04:16 AM Re: Authors' Marketing Services
Sigrid Macdonald Offline
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Registered: 01/20/05
Posts: 223
Loc: Ottawa, Ontario
Pam, Thanks for the reassurance about P&E. I agree that the reading sum is outrageous. My better judgment tells me that agents shouldn't charge fees. I just got excited when the guy sounded interested in my book. I hate approaching one agent after another! So far, I haven't sent my book to anyone yet, but I will trust P&E.

Sigrid

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#41702 - 08/30/05 08:26 AM Re: Authors' Marketing Services
meredithbead Offline
The Divine Ms M

Registered: 07/07/03
Posts: 4894
Loc: Orange County, California
Sigrid, they're not interested in your book, they're interested in your money. No reputable agent charges a reading fee.

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#41703 - 08/30/05 02:29 PM Re: Authors' Marketing Services
Dianne Offline
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Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 6123
Loc: Arizona
Sigrid, are you looking for someone to edit or an agent? It is considered very unethical for an agent to charge any fee of any kind. They might ask you to send them so many copies of your manuscript, etc. but they don't charge...ever. They make their money when they sell your book. A good editor will read and help with your writing so of course, you pay but never an agent up front.

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#41704 - 08/31/05 03:01 AM Re: Authors' Marketing Services
Dotsie Offline
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Registered: 07/09/08
Posts: 23647
Loc: Maryland
SIgrid, I agree. Everything I've read online and in books says you should not have to pay a reading fee. I have used P&E and trust her information.

Be sure to read writing magazines. Even if you do it at libraries, or book stores. They often have agents looking for new talent. That's how I found mine.

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