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#192369 - 10/23/09 11:48 AM Re: Genealogy [Re: jawjaw]
jawjaw Da Queen Registered: 07/02/03 Posts: 12025 Loc: Alabama	I thought you might get a kick out of this one. _________________________ Queen JJ www.queenjawjaw.com All Things Royal - 2010 and Beyond Humorist for the NABBW
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#192377 - 10/23/09 12:23 PM Re: Genealogy [Re: ]
Mountain Ash Member Registered: 12/30/05 Posts: 3027	Penelope from way back..and one old Scottish female name Grizel..often these ladies were called Grace. Thinking up a caligraphy project to use all the women from my tribe/clan. Come on JJ tell me your Greats names...
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#192380 - 10/23/09 12:54 PM Re: Genealogy [Re: Mountain Ash]
jawjaw Da Queen Registered: 07/02/03 Posts: 12025 Loc: Alabama	I love the name Grace...always have. And Ruth. Here are a few of my favs in addition to those... Viola Milicent John (I love how strong this sounds) Paul Abagail Megan just to name a few. _________________________ Queen JJ www.queenjawjaw.com All Things Royal - 2010 and Beyond Humorist for the NABBW
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#192389 - 10/23/09 03:21 PM Re: Genealogy [Re: jawjaw]
Mountain Ash Member Registered: 12/30/05 Posts: 3027	We have many Johns..FIL was one.Its abreviated to Ian in Scotland
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#192427 - 10/24/09 01:08 AM Re: Genealogy [Re: Mountain Ash]
jawjaw Da Queen Registered: 07/02/03 Posts: 12025 Loc: Alabama	I didn't realize that. How interesting...and it makes perfect sense now that you've told me. _________________________ Queen JJ www.queenjawjaw.com All Things Royal - 2010 and Beyond Humorist for the NABBW
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#192429 - 10/24/09 02:30 AM Re: Genealogy [Re: jawjaw]
Lola Member Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 3703 Loc: London UK	MA, in Wales, the Welsh counterpart for John is Ieuan(pronounced as Yay-an). There is also Ioan (Yo-an) and Iwan (I-wan). Together with Scotland's Ian, the resemblance is fascinating. _________________________ <><
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#192435 - 10/24/09 06:21 AM Re: Genealogy [Re: Lola]
Mountain Ash Member Registered: 12/30/05 Posts: 3027	Some use Iain..this may be to distinguse between cousins when a Grandfathers name is used by more than one offpring..James here can become Hamish. In my part of Scotland the female is often mention by her maiden name although married..incomers wonder about this..its as if we retain our birth name.Even Scots from another area dont understand at first.Think the custom of naming after Grandparents meant that this helped show which person was being spoken about.
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#192437 - 10/24/09 08:54 AM Re: Genealogy [Re: Mountain Ash]
Lola Member Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 3703 Loc: London UK	Quote: Think the custom of naming after Grandparents meant that this helped show which person was being spoken about. This brought a huge smile, MA. My grandchildren bear the names of their Welsh ancestors. My granddaughter is 7th generation Margaret Mary and her brothers are 7th generation Mathews (spelt with one "T"). To distinguish the younger brother (who's actually a Mathew James and there is also a long line with a similar second name) from the cousins and her older brother, my granddaughter calls him "My own", which sounds like "Owen" because of her Welsh accent. Our Margaret Mary is called Meg or Megan at home, to distinguish her from the other Margaret Marys in the family. Although her Dad calls her "Roberts". _________________________ <><
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#192439 - 10/24/09 09:15 AM Re: Genealogy [Re: Lola]
jabber Member Registered: 02/17/05 Posts: 10032 Loc: New York State	JJ, I've seen that [I told you I was sick] wordage on tombstones around these parts. When I was a kid, my adoptive mom and grandma often stopped at area cemeteries to read tombstone inscriptions. Word-association stirs up some weird memories. _________________________ https://www.amazon.com/author/bonnie.mill-lemke https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/bookshelf
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#192442 - 10/24/09 12:04 PM Re: Genealogy [Re: Lola]
Mountain Ash Member Registered: 12/30/05 Posts: 3027	Lola This use of naming has helped me so much..seeing the generations re use names..sussing out birth order. Some times if a baby died the name was used again so as to allow the name to continue. The other way same name cousins were differentiated here was to talk about a child saying their name adding on whose child the were. Long winded isnt it. Wales seeems similar to here ..Celts!!!
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