I truly respect your opinion Ellemm but 'do not' aqgree with what you say. Verbal abuse yes, it can be damaging but a spanking when done properly and only when necessary, does not injure a child.

I suppose this is one of those subjects like politics, and religion, everyone has an opinion but no one really KNOWS for sure. Makes for a good thread however. May I inquire as to your thoughts on punishment of those abusers. The serious abusers I mean, men or women? I will admit to wanting to hang them high by their thumbs and let them die and rot 'slowly' in the heat of our desert sun, and thats the truth on my part.
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