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#18406 - 04/29/05 07:25 PM Re: How many of those with Fibromyalgia take Tylenol??
leigha Offline
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Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 211
Loc: british columbia
Dear Ladies

Regarding Fibromyalgia, I've been studying up on herbs in order to bring more elasicity and lushness to the skin as well as more suppleness to tendons.

Within the book 'ENERGETICS OF WESTERN HERBS'
Treatment Strategies Integrating Western and Oriental Medicine by Peter Holmes VOL.2 (isbn 1-890029-07-6 )I came across 'CHASTETREE BERRY HERB', Latin name Vitex agnus castus L., OR V trifolio L. (Verbenacea).

It is 'a mild remedy with minimal chronic toxicity' and works on the 'liver, kidney, spleen, lung, chong, Ren meridiens'.

It 'stimulates circulation, dispels wind/damp/cold and relieves joint and muscle pain'.

'wind damp cold obstruction' causes painful joints and muscles, chills and headache.
Chastetree berry helps ARTHRITIS, FIBROMYALGIA, MUSCLE TENSION.

The reason CHASTETREE BERRY HERB helps fibromyalgia is due to its bitter pungent taste, the essential oil and flavonoid content. 'Its an antirheumatic and (its) analgesic action (can be) applied to rheumatic, fibromyalgic, arthritic and gastrointestinal pain'.

It is an expectorant, digestive stimulant, diuretic, spasmolytic and muscle relaxant.

It acts as an arterial stimulant and gives nervous sedation at the same time.

It also is a reproductive restorative and has a normalizing effect on the female system due to its dopaminergic action.

Remember ladies dopamine and seretonin in the brain are responsible for pleasure and the decreasing or dealing with the pain we feel.

As we age our dopamine and seretonin levels drop but they can be refreshed through diet and herbs.

They have just found out that the remedy chastetree berry has progesteronic and estrogenic, (although primarily progesteronic), actions that is why it helps to bring the body back into balance.

The chastetree berry herb has its most powerful effect in a tincture. The book says tincture dosage is 1-3ml.

Note: whenever you take an herbal medicine make sure you check with a pharmacist or doctor if you are on medication because there could be contra -indications. The chemistry of the herb may be in conflict with your medication or create a soup of toxins.

Licorice root is also available to help many problems with its estrogenic action and its energy also moves into all 12 meridiens. It's estrogenic properties help those with spleen/kidney qi deficiency. It also takes a hard edge off of other herbs that you may be taking.

Licorice -latin name glycyrrhiza L., G. uralensis,
Pharmaceutical name is - radix glycyrrhizae. With licorice root you need to study up on it, there are various kinds.

Remember herbal tinctures are more powerful than herbs that are decocted in a cup with boiling water.

It's very important to know your body, the medicines you take, their chemical composition, whether through deep personal study and knowledge or through the help of a doctor or pharmacist.

You also need to know what the combination of different herbs will do.

With thanks to Peter Holmes, this information wouldn't be available as he is the first man to study western herbs going back to the Greek days in history's time and to apply the chinese method of understanding the properties and energetic functions of western herbs.

Have a lovely day ladies.

with care
Leigha

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#18407 - 04/29/05 10:45 PM Re: How many of those with Fibromyalgia take Tylenol??
leigha Offline
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Registered: 02/21/05
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I forgot to mention, there is also volume 1 of Peter Holmes book. It comes as a 2 book set. Volume 1's isbn is 1-890029-06-8.

Life is great when you move with the moment, effortlessly including your dreams and the beauty of surprises... just waiting for you to say hello!

leigha

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#18408 - 04/30/05 09:50 PM Re: How many of those with Fibromyalgia take Tylenol??
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Anyone with high blood pressure be cautious with black licorice (candy form) or licorice root. It can play havoc with uncontrolled blood pressure

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#18409 - 05/01/05 08:36 PM Re: How many of those with Fibromyalgia take Tylenol??
smilinize Offline
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Registered: 11/08/03
Posts: 3512
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These posts seem to confirm what is available in the literature. Basically that there are many treatments and everyone responds differently to each.
There is a lot of research into treatment, but very little into "Cause."
The questions I submitted were for the purpose of spurring research, not into treatment, but into a possible "Cause."

As I'm sure you all know, pain starts at some point in the body and travels through the nervous system to be perceived in the brain. Asprin which comes from willow bark stops the process at the site of the pain. Tylenol stops it in the brain where it is perceived. When drugs are taken to affect the brain's perception of something, the brain compensates by increasing its own sensitivity to that stimulus.
Recent research reported on mainstream media shows that taking tylenol increases the sensitivity of the pain receptors in the brain thus increasing the perception of pain in subsequent episodes.
That in no way diminishes the importance or the intensity of the pain and that was not my implication. However the news reports about tylenol made me wonder if it might be more than coincidence that fibromyalgia became endemic in America about the same time as tylenol was introduced.
I did a little research and it appears that the condition is much less common or even non-existent in countries where Tylenol is not in wide spread use. That seems to be more than coincidence to me.
I believe it might be the result of the production of isomers, but that's another long story, so...
I thought if I could find enough fibromyalgia sufferers who could trace their condition to Tylenol use, I might be able to inspire some sort of research. Of course it might be difficult because most research in America is controlled by pharmaceutical companies who supply matching money for federal funds, but...

smile

[ May 01, 2005, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: smilinize ]

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#18410 - 05/02/05 06:05 PM Re: How many of those with Fibromyalgia take Tylenol??
leigha Offline
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Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 211
Loc: british columbia
Dear smile

What a worthy cause!I'm very interested in regard to the production of isomers and your theory.

Leigha

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#18411 - 05/02/05 06:39 PM Re: How many of those with Fibromyalgia take Tylenol??
smilinize Offline
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Registered: 11/08/03
Posts: 3512
Loc: outer space
Leigha, if you just type isomers into a search engine, you may have to wade through a lot of stuff, but you should eventually come to a better understanding of the concept than I could possibly write here.
Basically it is that the body compensates for changes in the brain and other organs whose purpose is to alert the body to dangerous stiumli by causing a more intense response the next time the organ encounters that stimuli. Pharmaceuticals that do not change the stimulus, but change only the body's response to it produce mirror images of the response that they are designed to alter.
I know that is as clear as mud, but it is scientific fact. Read any package insert with a pharmaceutical and you will almost always find the condition that is being treated listed as a possible side effect. That is the result of isomers.
Long boring story.
smile

[ May 02, 2005, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: smilinize ]

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#18412 - 05/02/05 08:12 PM Re: How many of those with Fibromyalgia take Tylenol??
leigha Offline
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Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 211
Loc: british columbia
Thanks smile

I'll check it out. I really appreciate the info and the time you've invested in this.

Leigha

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#18413 - 05/02/05 09:13 PM Re: How many of those with Fibromyalgia take Tylenol??
unique Offline
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Registered: 12/21/04
Posts: 483
Loc: North Carolina
Not boring at all, Smile. I didn't study isomers enough (at all?)(darn ol' Al, anyway!) in Biochem. Makes me want to dig out the ol' books - but search engines are soo much faster!!

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