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athiests and hope lola...

i had some kinda conversasions and hope was an earthlie thing brought about my changres of attitude and events.

the trouble i had and it was a trouble was i just could't get it with them "if thrs no god thirs no afterlife" ...so all conversasion was confined to the hear and now....

i think i inicalie couse much offense with one lad as i din't agree with him, could't stop myself (inicalie and necassarily ofensivlie) trying even subcounsilslie to talk him into a thir is a god position.


Celt, I've just read what I wrote on discussing "hope" with atheists and realised how half-baked it was. In terms, of what I really wanted to convey which is, I would like to find out from atheists where they find "hope". Those of us with faith, we do our best with everything we have, with what we have, and leave the rest to God. I understand that each individual is born with a sense of optimism. But, surely there must be a big difference between "optimism" and "hope"?
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