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Celtic, I can understand why you might be concerned for the emotions of those whose belief systems might be shaken, but what if they wouldn't be suicidal in the first place if they could cling to a better way for them? What if their emotional and mental illness stemmed from belief in a false God and the Holy Spirit was drawing them and trying to love them into the Truth and peace and power and strength of mind that comes through the renewal of the Holy Spirit?



newlesf i live in a prodominatly or overwhelmingly christion society......I think you assuomed i ment no-christions....How dose this applie in an existing christions case? Altrnativlie an agnostic or athiest, jewish etc. ...Some people have been brutilized, terriorized by the leaders or reprisentitives of religions (prists/ministers) or alternitivlie the average jo's interpritasion of any spacific religions teachings ie overzelias parent etc. ....meds and theripie might be best untill they are no longer suicidal..

For me their is more peace, contentment and health with a spirtuality than without one....but thats not the case for everyone.

Suicide more likly to occure when all hope is gone, if their god is ther last bit of hope i woldn't dream of shaking it, due to the vulribilite of the person at that time. Thats what i was meaning with the last post.


GYMSTER I agree with the couse of the restlessness you weer talking about as one potencial reasons, which i don't forget about....but as we all know their can be so many more couses and reasons behing seriouse depression and suicidal intent.
If it is spiritualy based, the holy spirite and that depression that you talked about can be a sighn to work out a better spiritual way..ie belife from within your existing religion....However if someone can't worki it out from within then thats what leads to people moving to diffrent religions than what they were born into.....(weer is it written or why dose it necasarily follow that you have to live the religion that you were born into anyway?)

NEWLEAFS QUOTEChristianity doesn't require anything but acknowledging that the blood of Jesus covers their sins and makes the path clear to God and eternal life with Him. It asks that you acknowledge that you are a sinner fallen from grace, that you need a Saviour, that you turn from sin and make Christ the Lord of your life, that you are obedient to Him and that you love your neighbor as yourself.END QUOTE

I would hope the above be true.....and living a decent life. Whats more important acnolaging christ as the saviour etc. Or living a decent god centred life?

CASY
can you say more about belife in jesus but not necasarily meaning he diead for ones sins....How is the cruxificsion justified? Pre-determined life....Now their a topic worth investigating!!!

celtic
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