Yes, we had that even during my years in school, believe it or not. The problem as I see it is that only a certain small percentage of students actually get into programs like this (by choice) and so the "word" or education doesn't filter down to the ones who would rather have PE than JA....you know? Especially in larger schools where identies are lost.

I guess my thoughts boil down to my fear of whats happening to our younger generation with their attitude of "give it to me now." I want them to get educated about the facts and how the CC are taking advantage of their naiviety by standing there with the golden apple and saying, "here, use this credit card to get what you want, there's more where that came from! Ahhh...go on. You know you want it!" You know?