Anne,
How are the knees doing. I twisted my left knee walking the dogs yesterday morning. Then I fell down the upstairs, staircase. So I'm hurting a bit today. Remember I said my brother works for the Buffalo Bills Football Team? Well years ago he and my SIL gave me a tub of "natural pain relieving gel. I'm using that. Brand name is: SOMBRA! This is what the football players use when they get hurt. It contains: aloe vera extract, capsaicin, carbomer, decyl polyglucose, grapefruit seed extract, green tea extract, orange peel extract, witch hazel, yucca extract,etc. It's made in the USA by Sombra Inc.; 5951 Office Blvd., NE; Albuquerque, NM 87109 go to www.sombrausa.com
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