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#19988 - 05/12/04 08:17 PM Taming the menopausal beast
Betty-boop Offline
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About six months ago, I started getting night sweats and getting up six-eight times during the night either to go to bathroom or with an anxious feeling. The doctor put me on HRT and water pills. This helped some. A few months later, she put me on a diet and I've lost some weight, plus I did an attitude adjustment. At the time all this was happening, I was drowning in self-pity for things. I finally put my foot down and started making changes in my life mentally and physically.

Today, I sleep soundly, I don't take any medications and I am happy. I have stepped out of my comfort zone and made myself do things that normally I was too shy or self-conscious to do. I am loving this year for the first time in a long time. I don't know if I was experiencing menopause, the doctor said my blood work showed I was, but If so, It is either over or hibernating.

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#19989 - 05/12/04 08:57 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dotsie Offline
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Betyy, I love hearing stoires of women taking charge at mid-life. I say we can either give in to falling apart, or stand up straight, keep our heads on straight, and march forward while aging gracefully!

You go girl.

Thanks for sharing. I think your story may inspire others!

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#19990 - 07/28/04 04:54 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Stormy Offline
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Loc: Manchester, NH
quote:
Originally posted by Betty-boop:
About six months ago, I started getting night sweats and getting up six-eight times during the night either to go to bathroom or with an anxious feeling. The doctor put me on HRT and water pills. This helped some. A few months later, she put me on a diet and I've lost some weight, plus I did an attitude adjustment. At the time all this was happening, I was drowning in self-pity for things. I finally put my foot down and started making changes in my life mentally and physically.

Today, I sleep soundly, I don't take any medications and I am happy. I have stepped out of my comfort zone and made myself do things that normally I was too shy or self-conscious to do. I am loving this year for the first time in a long time. I don't know if I was experiencing menopause, the doctor said my blood work showed I was, but If so, It is either over or hibernating.

Hi..I just found this board. I hope you don't mind me jumping in here but since I've been there, done that..waiting for the t-shirt. I found a wonderful book, well worth the price!!
(I don't usually recommend books on a non-book forum). The name of the book is "The Change of Life Diet and Cookbook" by Elaine Magee. I'm not sure which I dislike worse..Dieting or Cooking but even I can follow this. [Smile] In her book, you'll find ways to help you with night sweats, hot flashes, libido, osteoporosis..

One chapter that's really a hoot is "What Was I Saying? I Must Be Having One of Those Menopause Moments." Elaine follows up with foods that will boost your brain power.

How about "Hot Flash Mocha-chino" or "Frozen Fruit Freeze?" How about "Banana Coffee Cake with Chocolate Chip Stuesel?"

Hope this helps [Embarrassed]

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#19991 - 07/29/04 01:10 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Toni Offline
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Loc: Pennsylvania
This is another subject I can relate to and it is an interesting and controversial one.

When menopause began for me, I knew soon that that's what was going on. For awhile, 1-2 years the night sweats, the nervousness and such really disrupted my life and my husband's.

Later, when I started taking HRT, my life totally changed. I felt better, wanted to do more and as you mentioned my attitde got much more positive.

I am so glad that you brought this subject up. In most cases, unless there is a heredity factor or a serious health concern, women can choose to do just about anything they want to. It's a wonderful feeling to know that the 'doors' of life have not been closed; so much of life is waiting just for you!

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#19992 - 07/29/04 03:43 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
jawjaw Offline
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I ran out of hormone pills over a week ago and just decided not to get them refilled.

And it hasn't bothered me one dang bit...not one frigin' time...no siree...I'm so frigin' happy if I get any happier they'll have to clone me...now 'cuse me while I go get some more nails to chew on.
[Mad]
JJ

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#19993 - 07/29/04 03:48 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
smilinize Offline
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JJ,
All I gotta' say is, Thank the lord I'm a thousand miles away. Halleleujah!
I hear a woman without her hormone pills is a danger to mankind.
I've never took 'em, but there's probably people who would pay me to take a few.
smile

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#19994 - 07/29/04 04:10 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
jawjaw Offline
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Once when I was married to 1-800-Jerk, I ran out of hormone pills. He went to the pharmacy and got them refilled. When he came in the door I was sitting on the couch and he ran over, pour one out and handed it to me, then grabbed my shoes and pulled them off and put one in each shoe...I looked at him like he had lost his ever loving mind...He said, "it can't hurt. Now here, put one in each side of your bra."

He's no longer with us....

JJ

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#19995 - 07/29/04 05:55 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dianne Offline
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I went off HRT after hearing about the dangers or warnings and should be just about finished with menopause anyway. (They call it menopause because it makes men pause and say, Ohhh).

I started vitamin therapy. E helps with the night sweats, flaxseed oil helps everything!, fish oil and niacin help cholesterol levels and primrose evening oil is supposed to help with water retention, etc. (can't take it as it gives me really strange dreams).

I also started using the South Beach Diet. I've lost 14 lbs. and have so much energy. I feel better than I've felt in years and I'm looking pretty darn good too! [Big Grin]

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#19996 - 07/29/04 06:52 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
jawjaw Offline
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Wow Dianne...that's great. Tell me what you think the difference is between the South Beach Diet and Atkins. Or maybe pros and cons between the two?

I haven't started any vits yet, but know I need to. I haven't taken anything. How DOES one tell if they are finished with menopause? SMILES...you're the nurse, can you help?

JJ

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#19997 - 07/29/04 10:36 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dotsie Offline
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jawjaw, when did you get rid of 1-800-jerk? You're hysterical! Did your boobs grow or didn't you let him get that far? [Razz]

I learned that when you haven't had a period(lovely) for one year you can consider yourself done!

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#19998 - 07/29/04 10:45 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
jawjaw Offline
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huh? I haven't had a period since 1989 when I had the big H....that's not a good gauge for me.

Mr. 1-800-Bubba has been gone since I let him marry our next door neighbor. Let's see, since 1992? or '93? I'd have to look.

JJ ╜¿╜ zzzz....is this day EVER going to end?

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#19999 - 07/30/04 01:52 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Toni Offline
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JawJaw,

Your deal about running out of hormones and it not bothering you--I laughed so hard, tears formed!

You need to do 'stand-up'comedy--you're that good! And I mean it!

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#20000 - 07/30/04 03:04 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dianne Offline
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My sister and I were watching the news one night and they reported that a woman was in the hospital, scheduled for a hysterectomy the next morning. When her husband came to visit her, she pulled out a gun she had smuggled in and shot him. My sister and I both just casually looked at each other and said, "Hormones."

South Beach seems much healthier to me than Atkins. I have high cholesterol and it bothered me to eat all that fat! SB Diet allows veggies. But, I cheated and also had fruit. Still lost weight like crazy. I'm maintaining with no difficulty at all. If I gain back a pound, I just cut back. It's really amazing but how I feel is the best part. Jump out of bed in the morning, raring to go!

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#20001 - 07/30/04 03:40 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
jawjaw Offline
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she shot him huh? you say that like it's a bad thing..teehee...

A guy I work with is doing the SB diet and he says he tried the AT one but liked this one better. Doc says I have high cholestrol too. First time for me ever! That bothers me. Well that plus the 30+ lbs I've gained since I quit smoking last year.

Jump out of bed? ha! I wish! [Eek!]

JJ

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#20002 - 07/31/04 04:10 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dianne Offline
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Loc: Arizona
My doctor put me on Lipitor because he said I wasn't the type to change my lifestyle [Confused]

I would be walking along and my right leg would give out and I would have a really hard time walking on it. Then, I'm watching television and the ad comes on about Lipitor and a serious side affect being muscle weakness!

My doctor said 1000mg of Fish Oil (twice a day) and 500mg of Niacin (twice a day) has proven to work, lowering cholesterol. Exercise is important too...something I don't do but need to.

When you take the Niacin, be sure to also take tylenol. It will keep the "body burn" to a minimum.

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#20003 - 07/31/04 04:25 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
jawjaw Offline
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What is body burn? I'm still not taking any hormones, and Monday will start my third week. I'm feeling okay, no joke, in spite of my teasing in the post above...I wonder if that kit you can buy that gauges where you are in menopause would be worth the purchase...Has anyone tried it?

Exercise...ahhh now Dianne, that is something I must start! I must! I found out watching it on TV doesn't count. You have to participate. Gonna be close to your neck of the woods today Ms Di...Muffeesboro...

JJ

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#20004 - 07/31/04 05:39 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dotsie Offline
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Exercise makes all the differnce in the world. I exert energy, and feel more energized. Go figure! [Razz]

It helps me sleep like a dog too! [Big Grin]

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#20005 - 08/01/04 07:01 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dianne Offline
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Gosh, wish I could see you. My hubby is coming home for the week end.

Body burn from Niacin feels like little hot pricks on your skin for about 15 minutes. It stimulates your blood vessels (sp?). It also helps to take it with food. It isn't really unpleasant unless you couple it with hot flashes! As long as you know what is causing it, you're okay. Otherwise, it might kind of freak you out. [Eek!]

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#20006 - 07/31/04 08:01 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
lionspaaw Offline
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JJ - did you ever try the soy/black cohosh ?

I asked my pharmacist this morning if I really needed to re-fill my estrotest (estrogen) ( my pomeranian ate the whole bottle 3 weeks ago today ) since my only symptoms were a few very minor night flashes -- not really sweats -- just warm for a few minutes here and there -- she said the estrogen thing was basically for the symtoms of menopause and if I could live with them then maybe it would be for the best as estrogen can mess with your heart

BUT -- I should make sure to take calcium, vit D, and magnesium to combat osteoporosis and other "stuff"

AND -- that its the black cohosh that prevents the night sweats -- not so much the soy --

BUT -- I should get my liver panel blood work done every so often cuz it can mess with the liver

SOOOOOooo -- as long as I can keep off the FBI's most dangerous list -- I'm not going back on estrogen !!

p.s. -- my pom is okay so far [Smile]

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#20007 - 08/03/04 07:08 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dianne Offline
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Have you noticed that all vitamins and herbs that are supposed to help menopause and cholesterol, can damage your liver if you take too much? Strange.

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#20008 - 08/04/04 06:02 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Stormy Offline
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Registered: 07/03/04
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Loc: Manchester, NH
First..thanks for the laugh, Jawjaw..Still trying how to quote a message.

I guess I was kind of busy when I stopped as I didn't even think about it until the doctor asked when was my last period. No Clue!! One less problem I had to deal with :-) I was 35..37 maybe..no hot flashes (cold chills), didnt think I had the mood swings until my son happened to walk in while I was talking to a friend..his comment.."Yeah, easy for her..'ell on us!"

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#20009 - 08/04/04 06:09 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Stormy Offline
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Loc: Manchester, NH
quote:
Originally posted by Dianne:
Have you noticed that all vitamins and herbs that are supposed to help menopause and cholesterol, can damage your liver if you take too much? Strange.

Yeah I did it..quoted..Patting me on the back. [Big Grin]

I've notice that, too..or you hear "May cause.." The cure(side affects) is worse than the disease..

I remember going to a free Weight Loss hypnosis with a friend. The speaker was going to hypnotize us to loose weight but first he had to sell us his books, vitamins, and "all natural protein drink." My friend's a diabetic and wanted to know if it was safe for her and what was the ingredients, so I asked. The speaker said,"It's perfectly safe, all natural." Since that wasn't the answer I wanted, I asked again but told him that arsenic is all natural but I wouldn't suggest digesting it. I'm bad, I'm bad..lol
[Big Grin]

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#20010 - 08/04/04 03:04 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
jawjaw Offline
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Registered: 07/02/03
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Loc: Alabama
I love that! And you are sooo right on the mark there too. Just because it says "all natural" doesn't mean it is! It also doesn't mean it's good for you.

I don't know what to do about this hormone therapy...I'm still not convinced I even need further therapy...I seem to be doing okay (by my standards) and I don't seem to feel bad...I'm still cute...so what's the rush for more horomes? The only difference I've noticed is that every once in a while, my eyes feel like they are crossing...no joke. I'm not being funny here...I'll get this sensation in the brain (best way I know how to describe it) and then my eyes feel like they are resetting themselves, with some kind of movement, then it's over...Strange, eh? Anybody else experience this?

JJ

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#20011 - 08/04/04 06:12 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
smilinize Offline
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JJ, The eye rolling thing is a well known medical condition. It is known as hypercasinoptia.
It occurs when the patient stands for long periods with one arm up in air. When someone comes along and pulls the arm down, the patient's eyes roll around in her head and coins spill out of her mouth.
Yep, Hypercasionptia.
smile

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#20012 - 08/04/04 06:45 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dotsie Offline
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Smile, you hadme going there. I was already to ask Ross about it.

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#20013 - 08/04/04 06:49 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dotsie Offline
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jawjaw, Ross is off today and I told him about your eyes. His guess is that it isn't hormone related. When was your last eye appt.? And, if it continues to happen you should be seen by your eye doctor. I wish you lived here. He'd be happy to see all you boomer women. He's already putting all our friends in reading glases, bifocals, and progressive lenses. Isn't aging fun?

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#20014 - 08/05/04 07:34 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
jawjaw Offline
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Posts: 12025
Loc: Alabama
Smiles, you stinker! you had me going too! I had to read it twice. Once for the blonde in me, and once to enjoy it all over again! ha!

Dots...probably IS time for a checkup and why not? I mean if Mr. R doesn't think this is normal, then I'm all for finding out the cause.
Think I'll give them a call...Thanks Mr. R!

Course then again, he COULD fly me up there, you all could wine and dine me, he could check my eyes, write whatever prescription I needed then send me home. What? There's a flaw here? what?
JJ

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#20015 - 08/04/04 09:58 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
smilinize Offline
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OR if you really want to cure the problem, just don't let anyone pull your arm--or your leg either.
smile

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#20016 - 08/04/04 11:10 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
chatty lady Offline
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Smile what a brilliant and funny answer. You had me going to, me the big casino Queen, LOL

Yep, get those eyes checked and stay the heck away from Estrogen or whatever these mumbo,
jumbo male doctors try to get us to take for a completely natural, normal occurance in our lives....Embrace Menopause and it will not hurt you, it will empower you as a woman. I sailed through it glad for the changes and never suffered at all. Most vitamins won't hurt your liver either NOT like drugs do, and they prescribe these drugs like candy....

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#20017 - 08/05/04 06:05 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dotsie Offline
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quote:
Originally posted by chatty lady:
Most vitamins won't hurt your liver either NOT like drugs do, and they prescribe these drugs like candy....

Chatty, amen to that! I went to my gyn and mentioned that my fingers swelled ON OCCASION and it felt funny. Told her I wasn' use to it and didn't like it. She started writing me an RX for a water pill.

I told her I didn't want it. I was only mentioning it. It wasn't that big a deal. That scared me. [Eek!]

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#20018 - 08/05/04 08:59 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
smilinize Offline
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Then there's the trickle down effect.

The water pills produce potassium deficiency which results in dizziness and leg cramps then it slow you heartbeat and even induces heart attack like symptoms and no telling what else.
Then you get medications for those things and they cause other things and pretty soon you're up to ten or twelve pills a day then to twenty or more. And the drug companies get rich and you get sicker and we all get poorer.

All that from puffy fingers. Good for you Dots. Skip the drugs and hold your hands up in the air so the blood will drain back to your heart.
(Of course you have to watch out for that too cause if you're not careful JJ will come along and pull your arm down and we all know that that leads to [Smile]
smile

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#20019 - 09/29/04 08:34 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dotsie Offline
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I was noticing how we often get back to doctors prescribing medicines too quickly.

How do we EVER know how certain combinations react within each body?

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#20020 - 10/02/04 08:26 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
lalapaloosa Offline
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Posts: 223
Loc: Winters, California
Do any of you ladies know anyone with hypercasinoptia? I would like to hang out with them for a while to become infected myself. I need a new car.
I wonder if there are levels of severity. Like a minor case you spit pennies onto the more serious cases where you are spitting out $10 silver coins. I need the large denominations, so lead me to the sickest hypercasinoptians you might know.
Jaw Jaw, did you ever get your eyes checked?

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#20021 - 10/02/04 06:10 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
jawjaw Offline
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Registered: 07/02/03
Posts: 12025
Loc: Alabama
hey...where did everybody go? who turned out the lights? what? what? [Wink]

zat answer your question?

JJ

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#20022 - 10/02/04 06:50 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
smilinize Offline
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Registered: 11/08/03
Posts: 3512
Loc: outer space
Yep. The gaming commission came in and checked JJ's eyes. Now they roll around in her head and always come up triple sevens.
Yessirree, you play JJ's machine and you're a winner every time.
smile

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#20023 - 10/03/04 09:25 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
lalapaloosa Offline
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Registered: 04/21/04
Posts: 223
Loc: Winters, California
Get the guest room ready, Jay, here I come!! [Wink] LOL
Now get to the doctor before I have to get serious and kick yer heinderender!

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#20024 - 10/03/04 09:53 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
chatty lady Offline
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Hey, whats all this talk about Casinos and gambling without consulting ME the Queen of the Las Vegas losers society? I live in SIN city where there are slot machines in the gas station toilets, sheesh. A blind man or woman Queen JJ could find them. So before any serious talk of gambling begins don't forget me the expert on how to lose your money!!! Better yet how to lose somone elses money...much more fun. [Big Grin]

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#20025 - 10/03/04 04:47 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
jawjaw Offline
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Hey...I like the idea of losing someone ELSE's money...I've never mastered that Chatty...it's always been mine. Maybe I need to enroll in the Chatty School of Rollin' eh?

JJ

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#20026 - 10/05/04 03:16 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
chatty lady Offline
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Honey the things I could teach you about other (mens) money would curl your hair. I never gamble with my own money. But when I win guess who keeps the winnings? He he!!! [Big Grin]

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#20027 - 10/11/04 09:35 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Vicki M. Taylor Offline
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I had my first hysterectomy when I was 31, my second when I was 40. I had a forced menapause. My doctor immediately put me on HRT. Until all the horror stories started coming out about how bad it was for you. Then I went to a natural combination of black cohosh, soy, raspberry leaf, and more. I had less symptoms than when I was on the HRT. It's been a few years now and I don't regret ever giving up the HRT. I have nearly zero symptoms or only some minor flashes. Never did have mood swings, (uh, don't anyone ask my husband that question). But, seriously, I think the mood swings and other mood changes were kept in check w/the antidepressants and are now being kept in check w/my bipolar meds. Nothing like being on a mood stabilizer to keep ya balanced. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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#20028 - 10/13/04 09:00 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dotsie Offline
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Vicky, whatever it takes to give you a better quality of life. [Wink]

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#20029 - 10/14/04 04:33 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Sher Offline
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Well given my latest news that I have the estrogen level of a post menopausal woman, I am tickled to see that so many of you are living happy, non-murderous lives after menopause.

I am on a natural estrogen... but have only been on it a week or so now. I can tell that it's beginning to work because I've only thought about cutting up my husband into tiny, bite-sized pieces about four times today. That's gotta be good, right?

Frankly, I am so sick and tired of feeling sick and tired that I would eat frog eggs for breakfast everyday if I thought it would help.

My question to those of you that have been down this road is: Will I ever feel like I want to have my tractor cranked again??? [Eek!]

My husband keeps trying to jumpstart mine and I always send him packing. I haven't wanted to plow in a long, long time, so I'm hoping the estrogen will work some sort of farm magic for me.

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#20030 - 10/14/04 08:28 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Kathryn Offline
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Still laughing, still laughing, bubble snot from the nose laughing....pulled out a gun and shot him!!!!! One more sign of menopause I guess, this black sense of humor of mine....I find absolutely hysterical the most inappropriate of things. But I can remember the night before my hysterectomy and my husband trying to be supportive by saying that maybe the hysterectomy would restore me to my "old pleasant self"....fortunately for him there was enough pre-surgical valium in me to stop an elephant!

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#20031 - 10/14/04 09:51 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Vicki M. Taylor Offline
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Sher, my tractor hasn't moved in such a long time, it's stuck in the barn and the barn doors have rusted shut!!

Don't know what I can tell ya, I'm still waiting! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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#20032 - 10/15/04 01:14 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Sher Offline
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Loc: Midwest
Bummer, Vicki. I sort of had my heart set on being a sex kitten in my old age. [Wink]

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#20033 - 10/15/04 03:58 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Dotsie Offline
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Don't give up. Things could change! Youneed that cat outfit one of the other ladies in here had. [Wink]

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#20034 - 10/15/04 06:55 PM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
Vicki M. Taylor Offline
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I think my "dry spell" has a lot more to do with a horrible weight gain and depression.

Like Dotsie said, don't give up. Maybe as we get older we have to work a little harder to get there, but that makes it all the better, right?

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#20035 - 10/19/04 03:54 AM Re: Taming the menopausal beast
meredithbead Offline
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Registered: 07/07/03
Posts: 4894
Loc: Orange County, California
I think that aforementioned cat outfit is mine [Roll Eyes]

I've always considered myself a sex symbol. Now I'm a sex symbol for balding overweight nerdy middle-aged (or older!) guys.

We takes what we can get haha.

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