Possible Riots?

It's beginning to get kind of ugly in AZ with the Hispanics and the threat of sending them back to Mexico.

I love the Spanish people and they are such hard workers and do the jobs that other people refuse to do but it is draining the resources of the state.

How do you gals feel about it?

Dianne: Many things happening are unfair for the country and some are unfair for the hispanics. I pray we find a way to help each other without hurting this great country more.

This is a land of opportunities: A quilt sewn with people from all over the world. Hispanics are part of this beautiful quilt too! We can't rip a piece out without affecting it's beauty !

No matter what is said here someone can and will probably take offense. I will say that my mothers sister, my Aunt married a Hispanic gentleman 55 years ago and both my sisters married men of Hispanic decent so there is no prejudice on my part when I say that I believe any and all immigrants should come here legally. I don't care what jobs they do. I don't believe any nationality is better than any other one and this country has rules of admittance and they should be adhered to by all....Illegal is just that and when you are illegal in any sense of the word you're taking a chance of the consequences....

Chatty: I agree this is a tough issue .

And I'm Hispanic too, although I was born in this great land.

I agree about coming here legally! I believe in doing things the right way and abiding by the rules. God doesn't expect less!

But I am not in their shoes. Still, I wish we found a way to help others without hurting this country more!

Yeah, this is a sticky issue. Is it difficult for the Hispanic people to become legal or is it endless red tape?

Neither its their refusal to be patient and do it legally like everyone else has to. They live close enough to slither under the radar in the darkness and then there are those crooks willing to take their money and sneak them across....Its wrong no matter what the reason and the laws need to be enforced....Gaining entrance to the US on a visa isn't that difficult to begin with its just that some do not want to be limited in the time they have to remain here before becoming a citizen...

I am confused on this issue. The native in me sees America as God's land with no boundaries except His. I love the people of our neighboring countries, but the European in me is focused on ownership, boundaries, and laws. It seems impractical to allow illegals to live and work here without becoming tax-paying citizens.

As a patriot, I think it is more important to close our borders to our enemies than to our neighbors, but because it is difficult to determine who our enemies are, perhaps it is wise to close the borders to all.

Also, I wonder if some of the rioters are being paid to protest by those who benefit from hiring illegal aliens.??

smile

[ March 28, 2006, 09:29 AM: Message edited by: smilinize ]

Oh, believe me, unless you're married to an american citizen or your employer submits a formal request on your behalf, it is not that easy.

For some it takes years unending, depending which country you're from. I am not saying coming illegal is OK, I'm just stating what I've seen happen to so many.
And there are always crooks, as Smile mentioned. Not only people who sneak others in, there are plenty of so called "immigration lawyers" who rip off people and do nothing for them. Again, I've seen this with my own eyes time and again.

It is a very sad experience for so many.

Still, there are many great and truthful lawyers, that tell you things how they are and help you submit the right forms, etc.

This is a very complicated issue. I do pray I never have to be in a position where I need to choose between enduring terrible living conditions where I am, or sneaking into another country to better my life and that of those for whom I'm supposed to provide.

I do understand that many illegal aliens make it harder on the rest due to their behavior. The "bad apples" make it harder for our government to come up with a uniform solution for all.

Actually, they do pay taxes. They also pay social security taxes, which they will never be able to use. But, they can also get medical care and not pay for it or for insurance. I should be so lucky.

It's such a complicated thing. I don't think we should allow just anyone to enter our country and make money only to take that money back into their country. Some claim they take jobs from the Americans but I've never seen that. I've only seen them work jobs the American's don't want to work.

I saw a TV show about illegals who got welfare supported medical care and other services. I thought they were saying they didn't pay taxes, but I suppose they would have taxes taken out of anything they earn. Of course maybe not if they clean or garden or something. I'm pretty sure my daughter's cleaning lady is an illegal, but she never asked.

They also had a guy on TV who made millions by hiring other illegals to do landscaping, but never became a citizen. Now his business might suffer and he might have to leave the country.

I guess Americans have become too uppity to do some work. It's a difficult question.

smile

I don't understand how they can pay taxes when they don't have a social security number. I would venture to guess that if they are paid by check, the money deducted never makes it to the government. Many of them are paid in cash.

I don't believe in amnesty because it is an open invitation for others to come in illegally. We cannot afford to support so many people who are not contributing to our society and not willing to become Americans. I do realize most are contributing, but just look at the border states and the condition of their jails, medical care facilities, etc.

I've heard many differing opinions regarding this subject. It's very disturbing. With my limited knowledge of the situation, I think people who want to become citizens of the U.S. should be able to speak English, be self supporting and go to the end of the line of people who have been trying to become citizens the legal and right way.

One last plug for the Fair Tax: Under the Fair Tax, illegals would be paying taxes because it is a national sales tax INSTEAD of income.

Daisygirl

These people are called illegals because they are breaking the law. If they are breaking the law to get here, seems like we are inviting criminals into our country. If the rest of us obey the laws, shouldn't everyone?

Maybe our decision is to be a nation of laws or not.

smiole

Where we live, there are thousands of illegal Mexicans who work in the poultry industry, sad to say. They drive automobiles with a license, without insurance; they drain our local educational and medical resources, they work with fake SSNs...and use "no speak English" as an excuse. I ask you, why DON'T they speak English? Why don't they learn? I, as an American taxpayer, am sick and tired of supporting these people with all benefits American citizens have....some even want tuition free college educations, for heaven's sake. My own kids would like that, too! Somehow, we've got to decrease demand for this labor; then they'll stop entering this country illegally and plundering our resources.

Where we live, there are thousands of illegal Mexicans who work in the poultry industry, sad to say. They drive automobiles without a license, without insurance; they drain our local educational and medical resources, they work with fake SSNs...and use "no speak English" as an excuse. I ask you, why DON'T they speak English? Why don't they learn? I, as an American taxpayer, am sick and tired of supporting these people with all benefits American citizens have....some even want tuition free college educations, for heaven's sake. My own kids would like that, too! Somehow, we've got to decrease demand for this labor; then they'll stop entering this country illegally and plundering our resources.

There's one thing this natural born citizen has learned, in her fifty-four years of life...when the country's economy is healthy, we hear very little concerning legal or illegal immigrants. The most honest, telling factor as to how we are REALLY fairing, economically, is the prevailing public attitude toward these groups. During a boom, it's more or less an open-arms policy...during a bust, it's the keep-out! sign we'd like to see posted.

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Actually, the economy is doing very well. The unemployment rate is under 5% and just yesterday I heard that a poll said consumer confidence was way up last month. You just don't hear any good news in the mainstream media.

Daisygirl