love

Posted by: Dotsie

love - 01/25/06 02:04 AM

When we learn to create love in our hearts and choose to silently share it with everyone we come in contact with (either in person, or online), our lives begin to be graced with goodness in every aspect of our lives.

How do you show love?
Posted by: Bluebird

Re: love - 01/25/06 02:25 AM

Sometimes just by paying attention to what a person says and remembering things that are important to them.
Posted by: Eagle Heart

Re: love - 01/25/06 03:55 AM

By applying to others the same patient mercy that God has always shown me, even (especially) when I least deserved it. I try to live that mercy out concretely in my daily encounters by looking beneath the surface of people's words & actions and allow myself to hear the history, anxiety, mangled thinking and woundedness that lies behind their anger, intolerance, rudeness and grouchy moods. It doesn't always work, but it always reminds me to pray for the other person and for my own growth in learning how to love and forgive.
Posted by: yepthatsme2

Re: love - 01/25/06 09:12 PM

Honestly..I try and treat others, just the way I would like to be treated, without expecting anything in return.

Have found by reading the scriptures daily, I'm shown how to shine that love more brightly.

Not so much by words, I'm sort of like Moses in that regard....but actions.
Posted by: Songbird

Re: love - 01/30/06 07:09 PM

By trying to understand them, by not judging, by encouraging in any possible way, by not returning a rude remark, etc.
Posted by: Dotsie

Re: love - 01/30/06 07:16 PM

Thank you. You're all such beautiful women. I just love being here with you.

Being in the Word really helps. How can we know what Jesus would do if we don't read about His time spent on earth.

Song, you mention not returning a rude remark. That's so important.

I recently read 30 Days To Taming Your Tongue. I know I've mentioned that before, but it's sucha good book. It alerts you to your reasoning for speaking. Very good.
Posted by: chatty lady

Re: love - 01/31/06 07:05 AM

I am still a tit for tat kinda girl and thats a bad thing. I don't care or react when someone challenges me BUT get extremely protective when they challenge my friends or family. Dotsie I need to get that book...need to learn to let others react to their own challengers or not as they see fit...I need to learn to stay out of it.

[ January 30, 2006, 11:06 PM: Message edited by: chatty lady ]
Posted by: smilinize

Re: love - 01/31/06 07:10 AM

Chatty, you need to just be you. I think you're just fine as you are.

smile
Posted by: chatty lady

Re: love - 01/31/06 07:17 AM

Aw shucks Smile you're too kind.......
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[ January 30, 2006, 11:21 PM: Message edited by: chatty lady ]
Posted by: norma

Re: love - 01/31/06 11:38 AM

Every word above is true..... but i dont like love. It is a double edged sword .... tonight one of my daughters, was quietly crying, and i understood why, but i could not heal her heart .. i know it will heal with time.... but i also know time will bring other hurts.... yesterday, my brother was halting in his speech, because he was having trouble breathing, and i could not help him...over and over, the more people we come to cherish, the more we see their hurts... yes we do every thing we can to make differences, yes, we ask in our prayers .... but it would be easier, so much easier not to love ..... for how can we love someone, and not also be heartbroken when their hearts are broken, when they grieve how can we not also grieve ... how can we not cry inside for them when we see them struggling to hang on ? I'm sorry, these are not good words to say about love, but, please let me say them anyway .... i think you each know what i mean....

[ January 31, 2006, 03:52 AM: Message edited by: norma ]
Posted by: Evie

Re: love - 02/01/06 08:21 AM

Norma, I was struck while reading what you wrote, and not sure I'll explain it right, how if this is how WE feel when we love, and loving makes us compassionate, and grieves us and breaks us - then, God who loves us so much more, well how much must it break Him and grieve Him and hurt Him to see us hurting??? And just for a second there, I was struck with some kind of understanding or feeling of the deepness of God's love.

Yes love hurts - it's a risk, it isn't always rewarded, it's damn hard - everything you said above, true. And even so much harder to "love" people we don't like....like you said, easier not to love. Love turns us inside out.

But hate, is so cold and dark and alone and I don't want to imagine a world without love in it.
Posted by: Songbird

Re: love - 02/01/06 08:33 AM

Norma, I understand your point. Thanks for sharing it. To me, loving does not guarantee we can solve others' problems. But to understand others, to share good and bad times, to care for one another, etc., it makes life worthwhile!

[Smile] Yeah, it's a double-edged sword. But LOVE makes us better persons [Wink] !
Posted by: Eagle Heart

Re: love - 01/31/06 09:57 PM

Norma, I felt the same way after my parents died. It hurt so badly that I couldn't remember what the point was of loving someone with all your heart and then, bam, in the blink of an eye, they're gone with no good-bye, no word at all. How can someone so vital to your existence for so long suddenly be so utterly silent and so completely gone?!

How I wrestled long and hard with that whole Life/Death/Life cycle we all go through, not just when someone significant dies, but every day in so many ways with so many people and relationships, including self and God.

It wasn't easy. I wanted to stop loving. I wanted to retreat into a safe cabin deep in the woods somewhere remote and never come back out. But I chose to stay and wrestle it through. I'm no closer to being happy about the Death part of the cycle, but I know that Love/Life is the only choice for me now. I'd rather be in agony over loving someone than in agony over hating someone - or in an entirely different kind of agony because I never got to know anyone at all.

You're right, it's a double-edged sword, and all too often we feel the sting of the harsher edge of love...we put our hearts out there, pour our care and support into others' lives, and get called names we don't deserve and get misunderstood by people who don't have a clue and could care less who we really are underneath our words and wounds...it's daunting, frustratingly pointless at time, depressing if that's all we experience over a long period of time...but I think we will hurt either way, whether we love or withdraw and choose not to love.

All I can do is take it one day, one person, one encounter at a time, be the best (I personally translate that into "kindest") person I can be at that moment, which admittedly won't always be palatable to the other, and hope that we ripple even a feeble flicker of love and light instead of hatred and darkness into those encounters.

In the end, after all I've read and researched, the best philosophy for me personally still comes back to the Golden Rule I learned in early childhood, trying to treat others with the same respect and kindness I want others to show me. It ain't easy, never will be, but we're all still a work-in-progress and trying to get through each day as best as we can.

[ January 31, 2006, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: Eagle Heart ]
Posted by: norma

Re: love - 02/01/06 02:57 AM

I think all of us are 'one and the same' in more ways then not ...eventually knowing both joy and deep sorrow... and each of us repeatedly face the temptation to protect ourselves as you said Eagleheart .. maybe in small ways, and maybe by turning completely to stone..... I think there have been and still are, those who have chosen to become as stone... able to feel no compassion and to crush..... maybe in the long run those are the ones to be truly pitied.... for surely they too, must have wanted the good that love also brings.....
Evie and Songbird and Eagleheart ...thank you for understanding.... for sharing....

[ January 31, 2006, 07:01 PM: Message edited by: norma ]
Posted by: Dotsie

Re: love - 02/01/06 11:12 PM

norma, soemthing I have learned over and over again while reading almost 600 stories submitted by baby boomer women, and by reading these forums day in and day out is that we have more similarities than differences. Hands down! And that brings me tremendous joy.

I wish all universal members could grasp this. There would be so much more peace on earth.
Posted by: Songbird

Re: love - 02/02/06 06:12 PM

Dotsie,I'm with you! If we could only embrace our similarities and put aside our differences, what a loving world this would be!
Posted by: Dotsie

Re: love - 02/03/06 02:36 AM

Amen sister!
Posted by: NewLeaf

Re: love - 02/04/06 08:56 AM

Dotsie and Songbird,
As long as there are humans existing on the face of this earth, there will be differences. I for one am so glad that we aren't all alike and that we don't all agree on everything.
If we did, this website wouldn't be necessary. I have learned a lot from the ladies and hearing their feelings, beliefs and seeing their attitudes has stimulated me into reexamining what my core beliefs really are and embracing them once again.
I have all of the ladies to thank for that and sincerely hope we can continue to agree to not agree on all issues.
A good friend of mine was in an anger management class. One of the things they taught him was, we become angry when someone doesn't do something the way WE think they should or when someone doesn't think the way WE think they should.
Any time I feel anger, I ask myself, "Do I feel this way because this person isn't doing or thinking the way I want them to?"
The answer is usually "yes".
Thank you for allowing me to have a voice within this group and I will sincerely try to couch my statements in a way that won't inflame anyone's anger.