fustrated

Posted by: mariaelena

fustrated - 11/06/07 08:46 PM

Hi, my name is Maria I just turned 42, I have two kids my boy is 19 and my girl is 15teen. and I am in the early stages of monopause I think, but it has been hard for me since I have always been there for my kids and husben I mean I have done everthing for my family, my husben does nothing around the house. the thing is that I pertend that I am ok and its all good but lately I have not been feeling so good and my sex drive is gone I have to pertend there too, just to make my husben happy and I hate it. I have been to a doctor and I refused the medication since I am not one to take anything I dont even take pills when I my head hurts. I have read about it and I understand what it is but I am having a hard time with it cause of my family who depends on me so much, I have tried to talk to my husben about it but he dont get it, he thinks I could just deal with it cause it is part of life but the sex is just not there and he makes me feel bad about it. what to do? my kids on the other hand have no idea I try to keep them out of it since every time I feel sick I not show it. I dont want them to know that thier mom is not feeling well I have always been that way, thats were I am with this and hope that this forum gives me a little break I feel like running away then reality hits me my family needs me. I am mexican and my spelling and gramr is not that great but I never let it bother me so please forgive me If I dont make sence.
Posted by: meredithbead

Re: fustrated - 11/06/07 11:23 PM

Mariaelena, welcome to the Boomer Women Forums.

It sounds like you are in a typical Mexican family situation -- man is macho, and woman is expected to do everything. Your kids are at an age where their hormones are exploding. I'm not saying they can't or won't understand, but they're at a stage in life where they can think that their issues are the only issues. If you're too tired to do something for them, just tell them, because they're old enough to do many things for themselves. Maybe even try to explain to your daughter about the other end of the hormone change. Compare the two.

If you're not feeling well, your kids have caught on whether they say it or not. However, if your son is into the machismo thing, he might shrug your problems off as "womens stuff."

I'm not sure that your husband will change. You say "he thinks I could just deal with it cause it is part of life but the sex is just not there and he makes me feel bad about it." Tell him it's part of life and HE should deal with it. You should not feel bad. You don't "owe" him sex.

So you need to take care of yourself. No one will die if you take a nap and don't dust the windowsills this week. Also, add soy products to your diet: soy milk, soy burgers, tofu, because they contain phyto-estrogen (a weak plant estrogen) that helps ease your body into the change.
Posted by: mariaelena

Re: fustrated - 11/07/07 03:45 AM

Hi Meredithbead, thanks for your input I have been getting my kids to do more,. but they are as busy as I am my son works and go's to collage and my dauger is in high school with all honer classes so when she gets home she is up to her ears with home work, both of my kids are pertty much taking care of them self but I still do a lot for them. As for my husben well I do blame my self I have always done everything for him and now that I am not feeling well I wish he would pick up the slack but he just dont get it. I am not sure if I am in that ( typical Mexican family situation -- man is macho) that you refere to since my husben is not mexican he is white, and in his family his mom and dad worked together as a team. And in my family yes my dad was a macho man but he helped my mom he cooked and even taught her how to cook. I do feel that I am in my mom's shoes she was very devoted to her kids and husben and always put them first, she took care of my dad till the day he passed away, always catering to him, some times that was good and sometimes bad. but I could go on, on how proud I am of my mother, but thats not why I am here, I know my husben has needs and thats ok but I wish for once he could put his emotions aside and understand were I am comming from. I have always been a postive person, out going rarley get upste with family and friends but latley everything gets to me, I get to the point were I cant control my sadness or I feel ansy. I do hope that this forum helps me deal with everything I am going threw and helps me deal with it so I dont take it out on the ones I love.
Posted by: orchid

Re: fustrated - 11/07/07 05:50 AM

It's not devasting for your teenage children to at least know that you are experiencing abit of menopause. They are getting old enough.

It's not a good thing to "protect" children by not saying you are not feeling well. As long as they know they are not being blamed for anything. You don't need to say much more to them, but just for them to know.

WHile you sort out stuff with your hubby, is there something new you've wanting to try/become better? Focus on that. You need a break. I hope you do some form of exercise.
Posted by: chatty lady

Re: fustrated - 11/07/07 09:22 AM

Mariaelena, are you in Vegas? I live in Vegas too. YOu could give me a call and maybe I could help in some way...
If you want my number just ask. Welcome to the forum, you'll love these ladies, each and everyone...Wild Yam capsules are also good for keeping menopause symptoms at bay...
Posted by: Mountain Ash

Re: fustrated - 11/07/07 12:03 PM

Mariela
How lovely you joined this forum.
Bit by bit each woman will give you support and understanding.
Is there a well woman clinic who would test to see how your hormones are.Then holistic chemists or health food shop give more advice.
What are your interest... sewing:? cooking? do share. Then give some time over to that interest.For me its gardening.Growing seeds. We all need our personal place to retreat.These times are like filling our fuel tanks.
Love your name...conjures up beautiful images.
Mountain ash (Scotland)
Posted by: Edelweiss

Re: fustrated - 11/07/07 12:42 PM

mariaelana, I really don't know when menopause normally starts. I was about 52 when it started, so 42 sounds abit early. Just wondering if you are plain burn out; just too many demands on you from your family. How to cope with that is most likely difficult if you live in a "macho" household. But you have found the right place to vent, and there are lots of sympathetic hearts here.
How sweet of Chatty to suggest you contact her. She has given so many of us good sound advice.
Posted by: mariaelena

Re: fustrated - 11/07/07 04:28 PM

Thanks so much lady's I have been reading some of the forums and its nice to have forums like this. Yes I live in Vages I have been here for 10years and I love to meet new poeple please do send me your # chatty lady and thanks so much for the invite. I love to draw and paint and do diffrent things, I make things on christmas and give them to my brothers and sisters since I have so many and since I am the only one here in Vages I try to give them something to keep then close to my heart. I also love to cook, with Christmas coming I cook lots of tamales, and cookies I am one of those poeple that just make what ever comes up and its always comes out good. Thanks Hannelore I have been to a doctor and he say's that I am permenopause I dont have PMS any more and I cant sleep do to hot sweats, I get very mooding and my sex drive is just gone I have been like this for almost a year. Oh yeah and cant for get the hot flashes threw the days, this is not normal for me i hate it I dont like to be ill so it can be fustrating.
Posted by: Casey

Re: fustrated - 11/07/07 04:51 PM

Hi Marielena and welcome! One of the things that growing older helps us to finally understand is that we don't really have control over anything. What we resist, persists. I've found that the more I fight my body and try to push it beyond what it wants to do, the more it rebels. I had a very long perimenopause -- about 10 years -- and it was horrible. (I wasn't the nicest person either!) I had to let go, take some naps and ask for help.

It may not be normal for the "old" you, but it's normal for you now. You aren't ill. Your body is just changing. The good news is that at the end of this stuff -- there's no more periods!!!! :-)))
Posted by: mariaelena

Re: fustrated - 11/07/07 05:25 PM

yeah!lol I do like that part no PMS. thanks, man I love this I am starting to feel better the more I read some if these forums.
Posted by: mrs_madness

Re: fustrated - 11/07/07 05:51 PM

Quote:

....I also love to cook, with Christmas coming I cook lots of tamales....




Woman! Do not come here and start a salacious discussion of tamales or I am liable to slobber all over my keyboard until it requrires professional cleaning services. Tamales ohmygod, homemade tamales....what I wouldn't do for a homemade Christmas tamlale.

Peri-menopause be dammed! Just give me the tamales....I love you truly. Can I move in?
Posted by: mariaelena

Re: fustrated - 11/08/07 03:23 AM

Lol, that was cute, come on over at Christmas time and I can ensure you the tamales will be great!. I love them too It takes me all day but its wearth every bite!.
Posted by: Casey

Re: fustrated - 11/08/07 04:17 PM

I was introduced to the Christmas tamale tradition when I moved to California from Pennsylvania and one of my new girlfriends (who I call my "hot Latina mama!") brought me into her life and family. We've been celebrating together for over a decade now.
Posted by: Mountain Ash

Re: fustrated - 11/08/07 04:21 PM

Tell me what tamal is...please
Posted by: chatty lady

Re: fustrated - 11/08/07 08:49 PM

Oh, a tamale, a real mexican tamale is a one of the most delicious meat dishes on earth. My moms sister is married to a Hispanic gentleman and every year at our huge Italian Christmas celebration at my grandmothers house, his entire family was invited and mama, his mother, made homemade tamales, shredded beef in a kind of wrapping that was not edible,made from corn husks I think, with some type of corn meal wrap, that was edible... They are to die for...but they need to be the autherntic kind, not the junk they sell in the stores.
Posted by: mariaelena

Re: fustrated - 11/09/07 11:05 AM

Tamales can be made in all different ways, I make them the way my mom taught me. A tamale is corn meal wraped in corn husks stuff with red chilli and it is very good. My tamales are made with pork roast and red chilli, I also make green chicken tamales with (queso resco), spinch with cheese, and pine apple ones with rasin's those I do not like much but most do. The best are the red chilli one's homemade is best.mmmmmmmmmmI am getting hungry.
Posted by: meredithbead

Re: fustrated - 11/09/07 10:47 PM

SoCali is ~1/4 Hispanic, so tamales are common. You can even get gourmet tamales, vegetarian tamales, and fusion-ethnic tamales.

Actually, all foods here are apt to be adapted into some fusion whatever. Everyone eats everyone else's ethnic food -- which makes food the great equalizer
Posted by: Dianne

Re: fustrated - 11/15/07 06:45 PM

Maria, how long does it take for you to make tamales? I've heard it's very time consuming.
Posted by: chatty lady

Re: fustrated - 11/17/07 11:29 PM

Actually Dianne its not. It takes about as long as baking a cake. The shredding of the cooked meat always tales me the longest because I like it like string. I cook my meat the day before and then shred it the next day when its cold and easy to hande.
Posted by: mariaelena

Re: fustrated - 11/18/07 02:15 AM

Dianne for me I just plan a day of it because when I make mine I make alot of them you can freeze them and they make a great quick snack, plus I give them to poeple that have helped me thew the year one way or a other they make great gifts for Christmas. Chatty is right the meat takes the longest it has to cook for hours till the meat shreddes easy. Plus I add some seasons to give it flaver the longer it cooks the best it taste, then you want to add some home made redchilli which has seasons of its own. The spreading of the masa can take long if you dont make it just right. so that is by feeling it can't be sticky and it has to be a little salty cause when you steam them the salt dissolves. I have been told that I make the best tamales and I have to thank my mom, you see I come from a big family of 14teen my mom sold tamales door to door so we had to help, the girls helped with making them and the boy's sold them door to door. My mom did it because she had to help my dad with the bills and have extra money for Christmas. I started helping when I was eight I only did the sprending but became very good that it so I might say that is the easy part. I recomend that if you have never had a home made tamale you should find someone who makes them and not a store because they are not the same, belive me someone sells them they are best found at Christmas time and threw the new year.
Posted by: chatty lady

Re: fustrated - 11/18/07 10:04 AM

I cook my meat in beef bouillon, basting it often and for hours as Mariaelena does too. I also slip sliced thin garlic slices into the beef roasts used. I want a good quality meat, whether beef or pork. She is correct that there is NO substitute for the realtnhing, for homemade tamales.
Posted by: mariaelena

Re: fustrated - 11/18/07 09:58 PM

I do have to say i have never used beef my self only pork, chiken and just cheese with green chili. mmmmmmm!!
Posted by: Dotsie

Re: fustrated - 11/19/07 08:41 PM

Do you gals want to post this in the recipe section?
Posted by: mariaelena

Re: fustrated - 11/23/07 09:59 PM

Today is not a good day, I had very or no sleep last night there for I was not in the best mood. and I feel like I am making my family hate me, I cant say anything about anything or it turns in to a you are beening a bitch! I cant really take to anyone my kids well they think mom is wonderwomen I have expressed to my kids that I am not feeling good for the first time and that they will have to give me some space and help out more, but I think they are so use to me doing everything that it will take some time, not sure how I will deal with that. My husben in the other hand is driving me crazy, lately I worrie about everything, I need more help and it go's in one ear and out the other. if I say anything about what needs to be done I am bitching, if I complian I am driving him out the door and sex well thats different since me husben is very sexcial attive has to have it all the time its hard I dont want to nor do I need it right know but what to do I even tell him go get it some where else if he wants to not sure if that is the right thing to say but he makes me feel bad and tells me that I should be lucky that he is like that, Ok.!!!
I hate that I am going threw this and that my husben can't try for once to put him self in my shoes, I spolied him and know I am scared that if I ever do get sick who will be there for me and my kids:(
Posted by: mrs_madness

Re: fustrated - 11/23/07 10:41 PM

I don't think you're sick, I think you're tired. And underappreciated. And frustrated with with a family which uses all of your energy and gives you not much in return except for demands of more.

You need a vacation. No I don't mean a trip to your mother's house for a weekend, a real vacation. Some place where you're not the mom and the cook and the housekeeper and the laundress and chauffer and the errand runner. You need time away from all the demands and responsibilities to just be you. I'll bet that hasn't happened in many many years.

Can you find a way to afford a nice relaxing week or two away from the madness? Some place where you can unwind and listen to your inner self? Time where you don't have to do anything for anyone, just lay around in the bathtub with a book and do as you please.

It can be hard to maintain a daily balance within, when there is a constant clamor of everybody around you always wanting something. Every so often you need to get away and remember who YOU are.
Posted by: chatty lady

Re: fustrated - 11/24/07 08:36 PM

Mariaelana, I've asked you this before and never saw an answer. Is the Sin City you speak of Las Vegas? If it is maybe we can meet for coffee or lunch, my treat, and we can talk...? I live in Vegas too.
Posted by: mariaelena

Re: fustrated - 11/25/07 06:28 AM

Hey, Chatty lady yes I do live in Vages and I did responce to your invite to send me your # maybe we can meet it would be nice thanks.(. Yes I live in Vages I have been here for 10years and I love to meet new poeple please do send me your # chatty lady and thanks so much for the invite.)
Posted by: Dotsie

Re: fustrated - 12/02/07 09:57 PM

mrs madness, I agree. mariaelana, maybe if you can get away for a couple days, and they have to look after themsleves, they might appreciate you more. I think most mothers go through times like this. Hang in there and keep posting.
Posted by: gims

Re: fustrated - 12/04/07 01:43 AM

I am so hungry for a homemade jalapeno tamales right now!!!!
I've never made them myself, but I can eat a dozen in one sitting if they are home made (by friends). mariaelena, those cheese and green chili sound absolutely wonderful!