I've not attended the Presbyterian Church I joined for a while b/c the women (whether married or single, children or not) are rather stand offish and gossip. I joined the Church Spring 2005 and hoped I would not encounter such, but it is. I attend sporadicly and for myself. I'd rather be w/ my animals and nature, that is where I find God.

Hannelore, that's a very interesting story about the tunnels under Augsburg! If you find an article or web site, would you mind posting? I'm always interested in such!

I'm amazed at how 'faithful' men sin and repent, write a book, and make a buck. What about those in their wake?