Hey Kathy and Dotsie, thanks for this. I will check out the Menalive site, but I am more concerned with being positive for me (and my family) right now. I read 'travelingthedarkforest'and others and I know that this is the 'right' site for me. I am coming to realise that women are very powerful, that Mothers feelings impact on the whole family - pity we aren't born with this knowledge. I will try to keep an eye out for the teleseminar by Jed Diamond. Thanks again.