in retrospect, here- was just looking for some knowledge from anyone else that had dealt with this aspect. I don't have many friends to bounce this off, sadly, that is just how it is. I can't even bounce it off my dear one. I DID hear what Mountain Ash had to say,and I felt scolded and rebuked. I just looked to here for others to say somthing similar, it's a NORMAL thing. I don't go for the webinars, and perhaps I should. When you live with this, and you live with a perfection thing that is part of your being, ingrained, it's not an easy pass there even with help, especially with the other chains we carry along our path. Good advice, well taken, but really just looking for some more personal input there, those that have dealt with. It really made me come short, thinking OK this site is a LOT different when it used to be- and maybe time to just get off it and look elsewhere for a kindred aspect. Bonjour!