Hi Dotsie, no I was not on that call, but I'll look for it. NABBW page? I haven't read this whole thread, but I want to add something. Libraries use the bar codes on your card, matched with the bar codes on their books. So isn't that a record? 10 years ago my therapist recommended a book to me that was an sensitive subject. The book was 26.00, so I wanted it from the library. I would not even ask where it was, did the search, due to the title giving away the topic (no, it was not sex addiction or STDs!) When I found the book, I did not take it off the shelf to check it out because it was just too sensitive a subject. I was too embarrassed to check it out. Following week, at the therapists, she had a present for me. She said, "book such and such was on the bargain table at BN", so she bought it for me! Now, I would not care if I checked it out. After all, it could be a research project. Do doctors prescribe waterbeds?