I'm sorry, I ran out of space- this is my first posting.This is still gravityvictim. After doing an extensive test on me,it was determined that I had neurological damage most likely from birthing babies and that no amount of kegels would solve my problem. I then had TVT surgery in which a sort of sling was put under my urethra or something. It's like a miracle--I can run, jump, hang from the ceiling and I don't leak. I can't believe I waited so long to do this surgery and put up with wetting my pants for so long.P.S. I had the surgery when I was 41.