Mammajude, did you read that bit in 40 days that asserts it had never rained at all before Noah and the flood? That God caused the water to irrigate the land from below? I checked in the verse in Genesis - how ever did I miss that before? I've been a sunday school teacher! (I know it only a small point and not really the main thrust of the book but it bothered me.)Is your group passionate? Ours is very polite with lots of long silences. :-(