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#97346 - 12/02/06 10:49 PM
Re: Adoption
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I did consider that position for a little while. What turned me around are the government and social care we have available in the West in contrast to the lack of safety nets available to those children in the Third World. We have available to our needy children foster homes and foster parents, free education and healthcare amongst other social benefits in place to avail of. So, perhaps if some choose to adopt from where there is this imbalance, then the most disadvantaged children can only benefit from it.
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#97347 - 12/02/06 11:20 PM
Re: Adoption
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Registered: 06/24/06
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I think Oprah said to her viewers (on the show in which she went to Africa) that it is much "easier" to be poor in America than it is to be poor in the rest of the world.
I think she was right. The poor here in America have access to services that the poor of the rest of the world can only dream of.
My heart goes out to all children who are in need of homes. If we made it a priority, I am convinced more could be done to help those in need.
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#97352 - 12/08/06 07:50 PM
Re: Adoption
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Registered: 05/24/04
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Loc: Arizona
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After watching a tv show on older children that needed to be adopted, I checked into it. Almost all of them had mental health issues or illness so maybe people in America don't feel they are qualified to take on these problems?
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#97354 - 12/27/06 04:09 PM
Birth mom lived within miles...Re: Adoption
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Registered: 02/17/05
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Well gals...I was born in America and raised in America. In fact, my birth mom and siblings lived within miles of me, all my life. And I knew it. I felt it in my spirit. It wasn't until my adopted parents both died, that I found my birth family. I was abandoned at 25 months old. I found my mom again, when I was 50. Birth mom and I socialized for 5 years before her death. My adoptive folks, adopted 3 kids; all were 6 years apart in age; and all were from different families and abusive situations. So, you see, Americans do adopt their own. Of course, our case was back in the fifties. Hummmm, whatever! Just thought I'd throw this into the mix!!!! Luv ya,
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#97356 - 12/28/06 08:02 PM
Too old not to know...
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Dotsie, At 25 months of age, I was too old not to be traumatized by abandonment. I knew I belonged somewhere other than where I was but I didn't know where that was. My adoptive mom tried to see how much damage my birth mom had done and she took me to Children's Hospital for physical tests, then to a shrink for emotional evaluation. I remembered my birth name from a hospital loudspeaker summons. Over the years, every woman who gave me the least bit of attention, was my imaginary real mom. NO; I didn't know for sure birth family were nearby. I felt it in my spirit. My adoptive mom never talked about it. I didn't want to hurt her, so I waited until dad and she graduated into the spirit, before I seriously searched for biological kinfolk. After I did, I wished I hadn't. The trauma was compounded. I was rejected a second time. My birth mom had abandoned all eleven of her kids, at different stages in their lives. Most of my siblings were jealous that I was adopted...and on and on it goes. Today, I have PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) but it isn't totally from that. Other issues contributed, as well. The reason I searched is because, identity is a huge thing when you're not sure who you are. I wanted to know why I was left; what had happened that my mother didn't want me. The answer was: I came from a family where four generations of women had been abused. Need I say more? Your kids, Dotsie, are probably victims of economic instability. That's different. Whatever you do, good luck!!!! Luv, BRose
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#97358 - 12/29/06 03:04 PM
Not even mom...
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Registered: 02/17/05
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Loc: New York State
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Dear Dotsie, I don't mind questions. If there's any way I can shine some light on the child's emotional viewpoint, I'd be glad to help. In my day, the old folks were tight-lipped. My adopted folks would not talk about it. When I met my birth mom, she was extremely secretive and guilt-ridden. She said very little. She had hurt a lot of people and the ripple effect swept over hundreds of offspring. It was two weeks before Christmas '94 when I found her. At first, she wanted no part of me. The second time I went back, she said, "I've got 43 grandchildren, no more family is needed." I visited her on Tuesday. I took her groceries. I took her out to lunch. Eventually, I got her a new apartment not far from where I lived. She cottoned to having me around after a while. Most of my siblings held grudges and had nothing to do with her. I, and my "Pastor" sister, was about all she had in the end. Mom liked men. Mom liked babies. That was about all she liked. The questions that were answered, were answered by intuition and observation. Verbal communication was in short supply. But I spent my life wanting to know who I was. Now I know. And it isn't a pretty picture!!!! Ciao for now.
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#97361 - 01/03/07 02:46 PM
No secrets...
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Registered: 02/17/05
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Loc: New York State
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Dear Dotsie, I am so happy to hear you're open about the adoptions. I now believe, that in my case, my adoptive mom was hush, hush, because birth mom lived so near. She may've been afraid that the woman would return and take me away. But my adoptive mom kept my brother and sister's adoptions secret, too. They were from different backgrounds. And remember, that was back in the late '40S. Personal things were kept quiet, in those days. It's good to share all you know about your children's history with them. They'll respect U for that in days to come. I respect that sort of forthrightness. I think, it's human nature to wonder about one's identity. Adopted kids, have a tendency to question why they weren't wanted, even if unavoidable circumstances cropped-up. I'd like to take this opportunity to "Thank you" for starting this site. And say, "I really appreciate being allowed to vent my hurting emotions in such a caring forum." Ciao for now, B.Rose
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#97362 - 01/04/07 03:09 PM
Re: No secrets...
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Queen of Shoes
Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 6123
Loc: Arizona
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Bonnie, I used to wish I was adopted because it would explain so much. I even ordered two copies of my birth certificate, going over them carefully, looking for clues. Didn't find any though.
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#97367 - 01/16/07 04:04 PM
Re: No secrets...
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Registered: 01/10/07
Posts: 431
Loc: Oklahoma, USA
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She does okay. She's in a couple special classes and uses her alpha smart. It's so funny when she writes us a note. We can sorta decipher it but some letters we have to guess at. We have to really watch her because she has many of the classic fetal alcohol symptoms. They never meet a stranger and are very affectionate with everyone. She thinks if they introduce themselves she now knows them. Scary. I closely monitor her internet usage. She has severe ADHD and is all over the place. She keeps us going. I often feel like I'm too old to keep up with her. It takes both my husband and myself and even then we fall short. We keep a sense of humor about it. We thank God every day for her progress because she has baffled the doctors. They didn't expect her to come this far. She was classified as fetal alcohol syndrom as an infant. A few years ago they had to reevaluate her diagnosis as fetal alcohol effects with severe ADHD. She's very immature. She acts like a 7 year old in some ways but she's smart and can carry on a conversation with an adult. Laurel
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#97368 - 01/16/07 04:05 PM
Re: No secrets...
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Laurel, What a great story. It's so good to hear something good about the young people who will soon be running our country. And about the people who love them enough to help them be the best they can be.
Thanks for the good news. smile
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