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#216408 - 02/12/12 10:48 PM Re: Political debates...? [Re: jabber]
Anne Holmes Administrator Offline
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I don't think he has any more chance than the proverbial snowball in Hades of winning the Republican nomination. There are too many people whose rights he seeks to supress.

And, the campaign started by syndicated sex columnist Dan Savage is brutal. Though by now, Google MAY have removed Savage's site -- it WAS still among the top 5 sites that came up when I Googled on "Santorum" earlier today.

This MotherJones.com article does A good job of explaining that fracas if Savage's site is indeed now deleted.

Whatever comes of that, the bottom line, for me, is that the recent Santorum Surge has resulted in some attention from Romney.

My but this is an interesting fight!
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#216413 - 02/13/12 03:30 PM Re: Political debates...? [Re: jabber]
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I think Santorum is an absolute crank. More than anything else to me, he seems like he has such a narrow view of what is right and what is wrong that he literally cannot think past himself. In fact, I think the thing that most bothers me about him is that he would deny rights to others that he has enjoyed in his own family.

Examples: he has a child with Trisomy 18, which is a severe genetic defect that results in a very short life. Needless to say, I'm very sorry and am sure he and his wife are good parents. BUT this is a man who can and does hospitalize that little girl as needed at the same time he's telling other people that healthcare should be done on the free market. Well, guess what? Private insurers don't want people with disabilities or chronic conditions; they're financial liabilities. If he of all people cannot get that I don't know why he should be president. Like it or not, there are 330 million other people in the country and they don't all fit into his narrow definitions of what is acceptable.

And another thing: some years ago he and his wife had a stillborn son. They were allowed to make their difficult decisions regarding healthcare with their doctors, but he would deny the same rights to others.

I also really dislike his habit of blaming social problems on liberals. He even blamed the Catholic priest scandal on liberal influence. Since when are priests supposed to be worried about the outside world? This is their fault, not our fault. If he thinks conservatives live blamelss lives, he needs to get out more. In my experience, people of all faiths and political persuasions behave how they want to. I live in a very conservative state. It's also one of the divorce capitals of the country. He's just clueless.

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#216445 - 02/15/12 03:11 PM Re: Political debates...? [Re: Ellemm]
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He may be clueless but he's gaining a lot of ground. He's even ahead of Mitt in some of the polls.

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#216459 - 02/18/12 01:02 AM Re: Political debates...? [Re: jabber]
Anne Holmes Administrator Offline
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Yeah. that's probably why billionaire casino magnate Sheldon Adelson just announced plans to give another $10 million to "Winning Our Future," the super PAC backing Gingrich.

As you know, Newt is running behind both Romney and Santorum. Adelson plans another $10 million gift for Newt

Adleson and his family have already given $11 million to the super PAC, which backs Gingrich.

Yowzah!! Who else besides casino owners has that kind of money these days?
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#216460 - 02/18/12 02:22 PM Re: Political debates...? [Re: Anne Holmes]
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True! And explain to me why the gambling public doesn't realize casinos wouldn't be so opulent, if they weren't ahead of the game?

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#216505 - 02/22/12 07:17 PM Re: Political debates...? [Re: jabber]
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Registered: 12/23/10
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Loc: Washington State
I must admit that the choices we have depress me. I don't like any of them. For once I'd like to find a candidate that I can happily vote FOR, rather than voting AGAINST someone. Is that asking too much?
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#216514 - 02/23/12 02:55 PM Re: Political debates...? [Re: Sandy N.]
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IMHO it's much too difficult for any regular person to get into the political arena. The financial cost is out of control, and so is the mudslinging. God love anyone with the courage to run for President of the USA. I'm unhappy with the GOP race and wish I could find a favorite candidate to back. I hate to think of changing parties. What's that garbage on the Net about Obama giving 7 American islands off the coast of Alaska to the Russians. I hate reading stuff like that!!!

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#216518 - 02/23/12 07:53 PM Re: Political debates...? [Re: jabber]
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Hi Jabber,

I hadn't heard anything about the Alaskan islands, but of course, knowing me, as soon as I read your post, I had to go searching.

I was a bit surprised to find that Google was not reporting that any of my normal news sources - the New York Times, Chicago Tribune, Washington Post, for example - were talking about it.

But I DID find a blog post discussing it, which I have linked to here.

The story apparently originated with an article that appeared this week in a World Net Daily opinion piece by former Republican U.S. Senate Candidate for Alaska, Joe Miller.

And from what I can tell, it has received huge attention from the blogosphere - so thanks for bringing it to our attention.

In the link above, the poster, someone named Maggie whose blog is called "Maggie's Notebook," reports that she actually called Joe Miller and talked to him to get clarification.

Based on what I read in the post linked to above, this is an issue that has been in contention since time time of George H.W. Bush and Henry Kissinger.

The ownership of the islands is in dispute, due to mapping. And -- while there is supposed to be valuable oil in the sea beds below these islands -- it is not clear yet whether or not Russia is willing to take ownership of them.

The piece I linked to is lengthy, but you will probably find it worth reading.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention here on the forum. (By the way, from her site, Maggie looks to be Boomer aged, and she lives in Oklahoma. Maybe we could get her to join the forum.)

Anne

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#216519 - 02/23/12 08:06 PM Re: Political debates...? [Re: Anne Holmes]
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Well, when I read, Obama gives 7 oil rich islands to Russia, A Secret Giveaway, it got my attention. I think Chatty sent me that email. I always try to read whatever she sends due my respect for her. The headlines are a bit unsettling, to say the least. I scanned the link you provided Anne; it's difficult sometimes to figure out which reporter is reporting an accurate account of reality and not slanting the facts with their own viewpoint.

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#216523 - 02/23/12 11:17 PM Re: Political debates...? [Re: jabber]
Anne Holmes Administrator Offline
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Hi Jabber,

I know what you mean about slanting the facts. It happens, even though the news media would like to tell us that they are fair and even-handed.

Bloggers are not bound my the rules the upstanding (ie: NOT FOX News) media try to follow, so I am always a bit more suspicious of their info. However, the blogger I quoted did say she had gone straight to the "horse's mouth" for clarification. As a result, I was inclined to believe her, even though I'm not familiar with her work.

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