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#193474 - 11/07/09 10:43 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: chatty lady]
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Registered: 01/21/07
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Loc: British Columbia, Canada
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Great. Guess what:
I just found out my youngest sister is pregnant with baby #2. She is 5+ months pregnant. She is 40 yrs. She is an emergency services doctor. She works regularily on weekends. Long shifts ..12 hrs. each. She sleeps at the hospital. It's 100 kms. one way from home. She is the primary breadwinner because of her significantly higher salary even though she's only part-time. They have a 20 month old daughter. She did not answer my email about H1N1 vaccination for herself.
And it's confirmed within the last 24 hrs. my father has prostate cancer. The doctor-sister is the family member who is/will be the main info. conduit..and yes, she is the one in direct communication with father's physician.
There is considerable stress right now on certain family members.
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#193483 - 11/08/09 09:25 AM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: orchid]
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Orchid, would'nt the hospital where your sister works make vaccination compulsory for medical professionals at the frontline of healthcare? My daughter's hospital has had to shut down a ward recently because of swine flu. She has had her vaccination which considerably puts my mind at ease.
I am so sorry to hear about your Dad's bout with prostate cancer. It helps tremendously to have a doctor in the family as she would be able to explain to the rest the nature of the illness and the appropriate treatment your Dad would have to undergo. I pray all be well.
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#193486 - 11/08/09 01:18 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: Lola]
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Our Group Practice have only 100 doses at present.Pregnant ..preschool are first in line to receive these.Then "at risk groups" No doubt this will change as the labs release more.
I had a seasonal flu shot last Friday..felt very slightly headachey for a day.Took things quietly and feel fine.
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#193494 - 11/08/09 03:48 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: Mountain Ash]
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My neighbor caught the Swine Flu and was sick for nine weeks. She lost a ton of weight and felt truly horrible. It's an awful flu and if I could find somewhere that carried the shot, I'd be in line to receive it.
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#193508 - 11/08/09 06:34 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: Dianne]
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Registered: 11/19/08
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Loc: American living in Germany
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I am going to stop shaking hands!
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#193518 - 11/08/09 08:05 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: Dotsie]
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Registered: 11/02/09
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Loc: CA
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My daughter, 26, is pregnant with her second baby. She has decided not to get the swine flu shot....Heard and believes many negatives. I personally don't know, either way...I just worry about her and her first little boy. Her neighbor who is also pregnant and a nurse , also decided not to get it. There is so much contradicting information out there about it all.
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#193606 - 11/10/09 03:33 AM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: Lola]
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Registered: 01/21/07
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Loc: British Columbia, Canada
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Orchid, would'nt the hospital where your sister works make vaccination compulsory for medical professionals at the frontline of healthcare? My daughter's hospital has had to shut down a ward recently because of swine flu. She has had her vaccination which considerably puts my mind at ease.
I am so sorry to hear about your Dad's bout with prostate cancer. It helps tremendously to have a doctor in the family as she would be able to explain to the rest the nature of the illness and the appropriate treatment your Dad would have to undergo. I pray all be well. Most likely she is vacinated. Your kind thoughts, Lola and those of others here, are appreciated. The happiness bubble in our family..has broken now. While our family has endured significant psychosocial upsets, this is the first potentially deadly illness that anyone in my family has experienced. So we've had a winning streak right up to the 80th yr. Yes, my sister is a great resource. I live 4,300 kms. apart from my whole family.
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#193618 - 11/10/09 12:02 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: orchid]
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Your Dad is 80, Orchid? I can only imagine how upsetting it must be for your family but, you must draw strength in the company of each other under the circumstances. Sticks in a bundle are unbreakable. My prayers for your family, most especially for your Mom. Do members of the family live fairly close to them?
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#193619 - 11/10/09 12:06 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: Lola]
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I have the sniffles and joint pains today. Hope it is'nt the flu. Ought to really have made time for the flu shot...Vit C does not seem to have helped. Nice thing about taking a sick day off work is that I can watch b/w films on telly.
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#193644 - 11/10/09 06:49 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: Lola]
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Registered: 11/08/05
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I have the sniffles and joint pains today. Hope it is'nt the flu. Ought to really have made time for the flu shot...Vit C does not seem to have helped. Nice thing about taking a sick day off work is that I can watch b/w films on telly.
Hope you feel better very soon! Feeling sick is not a pleasant state of affairs..... I have a question about the British TV programming you are watching today, but I posted it in the TV section......
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#193650 - 11/10/09 07:10 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
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Registered: 11/08/05
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Loc: NJ
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Mostly everyone I know who gets the flu shots each year get the full-blown flu within a few days. And mostly everyone I know who does not get the shot, does not get the flu.
Most childhood immunizations are for life. Yet this flu shot thing is still experimental as far as I am concerned because we "have" to do it yearly. And because we were told in the 70's that dead viruses were being used, only to find out in 2002 that in the 70's they used live viruses and lied....I do not care to be anyone's guinea pig I respect your feelings on this subject. It is common to LATER find out we were duped about a particular health concern or treatment. I waited years before accepting the annual seasonal flu vaccine, and have suffered no ill effects during these last 4 years of getting the shot. At my age, my immune system is not what it used to be, so I'm hoping what they say is true that the annual seasonal flu shot has a measure of protection against the swine flu as well. I have no intention of getting the swine flu vaccine, since the number of USA swine flu fatalities has shown to be very low as compared to the 30,000 annual USA deaths from the seasonal flu. My husband works in a hospital and was required to get the seasonal flu vaccine period. I am limiting my contact with people, practicing frequent and effective handwashing, and am avoiding what I consider this experimental swine debacle. Wheter it be the live virus (spray) or the dead virus (vaccine), I don't want it at this point. Some study came out last week in CA saying that older people are more susceptable than previously thought, and then that story was quietly buried. So for the moment, only children and pregnant women are being prioritized in many places for the limited vaccine available. And I notice the variations about the swine flu story/vaccine, depending on which TV "expert" you listen to. I've lived long enough as a woman, wife, nurse and mom to be my own expert. And I say "No thank you."
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#193759 - 11/11/09 10:21 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: Lola]
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Registered: 01/21/07
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Loc: British Columbia, Canada
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Your Dad is 80, Orchid? I can only imagine how upsetting it must be for your family but, you must draw strength in the company of each other under the circumstances. Sticks in a bundle are unbreakable. My prayers for your family, most especially for your Mom. Do members of the family live fairly close to them?
Yes, he's 80. My siblings live scattered about the city..within 40 kms. at most or closer. Might have mentioned here months ago, but my mother understands and speaks primarily only Chinese. So with us, adult children having lost alot/never acquired much (depends on birth order of each child) alot of Chinese speaking fluency, you can imagine ongoing conflicts and gaps in communication. My father is fully bilingual..he has been the mediator, language-interpreter between my mother and all of us. So it's pretty complicated family dynamics because of linguistic shortfalls. ______________________________ As for swine flu vaccinations: my sister-physician had herself vaccinated just 2 weeks ago. She is 5+ months pregnant also. She will be working until end of Jan. before taking maternity leave. Her 2 yr. old daughter and hubby got vaccinated last wk. She has had the regular flu vaccination annually for last few years. She must. She complains that some patients couph at the physician, which really ticks her off: Do the patients not realize the doctor is a human being also?
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#193764 - 11/11/09 10:47 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: chatty lady]
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Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 1796
Loc: Daytona Beach, Florida
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I take Prednisone, which lowers my immune system, so I get a seasonal flu shot every year and never get sick from it or the flu.
The new flu shot scares me, but I'm not worried about it because the vaccine isn't here. Ha!
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#193839 - 11/13/09 08:37 AM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: chatty lady]
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Registered: 11/19/08
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Loc: American living in Germany
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Thank you chatty for your well wishes. Other then rubber knees. I'm doing better then expected. "A" got a relapse. As soon as she felt better, her mother brought her outside. Not a good idea. My doctor said I have to stay home for 1-2 weeks, alone because of being contagious. My poor little "A"...I wish I could nurse her back to health.
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#193843 - 11/13/09 09:38 AM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
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I hope you feel better soon, EW.
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#193910 - 11/14/09 01:44 AM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: chatty lady]
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Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 1796
Loc: Daytona Beach, Florida
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EW, I didn't know you had the flu. Oooh, I had it a few times in my youth (I mean decades ago) and it was awful. I can't imagine getting it now.
Orchid, my father had prostate cancer and the surgery and lived to 90.
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#193913 - 11/14/09 01:57 AM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: Saundra]
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EW, please listen to the doc! The holidays are around the corner and I know you'll want to be 110%!
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#193916 - 11/14/09 05:39 AM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: chatty lady]
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Registered: 11/02/09
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Loc: CA
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Hi Chatty Lady, May I ask specifically where you heard the information about 28 pregnant women dying after getting the H1N1 shot? Is it somewhere I can go to see this information written in black and white? My daughter is pregnant and she is wanting me to ask these questions. She is understandably worried about getting the shot and its affects on her unborn child. I would appreciate your help.
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#193932 - 11/14/09 07:27 AM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: BlessedOne]
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Registered: 01/21/07
Posts: 3675
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
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Hi Chatty Lady, May I ask specifically where you heard the information about 28 pregnant women dying after getting the H1N1 shot? Is it somewhere I can go to see this information written in black and white? My daughter is pregnant and she is wanting me to ask these questions. She is understandably worried about getting the shot and its affects on her unborn child. I would appreciate your help. BlessedOne: My sister is an emergency services doctor. She got herself vaccinated 2 wks. ago. She is 5+ months pregnant. She still works with patients. She is the primary breadwinner in her family even though she works only part-time because of her much higher salary as a physician, her husband is a cook. No choice. Her hubby and 20-month daughter got vaccinated just last wk.
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#194351 - 11/21/09 06:14 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: chatty lady]
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Registered: 06/27/05
Posts: 2561
Loc: Alabama
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I'm still not going to get it...even if it is offered.
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#194442 - 11/23/09 03:36 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
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Registered: 11/18/05
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Loc: Daytona Beach, Florida
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Do you remember that our ex-V.P., Cheney, was involved with the companies that originated Tamiflu. He's making money off this. It started in 1976 with the first known swine flu and they still don't know enough about the medicine to give us solid information.
Follow the money! P.S. when I typed in his first name it showed as [censored] like this - [censored]
That tell you anything.
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#194478 - 11/24/09 12:39 AM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
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Registered: 11/18/05
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Loc: Daytona Beach, Florida
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I'm with ya, Anne.
I've heard about drinking warm water. Whatever happened to good old chicken soup and tea?
This flu is moving too fast. Mutations are very scary. My Mom worked in a 5 & dime handling money all day decades ago. Nobody realized how dirty money was then. When I was in timeshare I used to say, "I'll trade you that dirty money for this clean invitation." I stopped shaking hands 2 years before I got laid off. Everybody seemed to understand.
I still think Mexico should have closed it's borders right away.
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#194624 - 11/25/09 05:45 PM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
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Registered: 11/18/05
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I received a recorded call from my insurance company today encouraging people to get the annual flu vaccine (I did in October) if the H1N1 vaccine isn't available. It stressed that the annual flu is more dangerous than the swine flu.
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#194794 - 11/29/09 02:59 AM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
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Registered: 11/18/05
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Loc: Daytona Beach, Florida
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I know, Dotsie. I get letters about my meds and now this phone call. Big Brother is watching!
Jabber, I didn't feel my flu shot until later. I said, "Are you sure? I didn't feel anything. I don't even get a bandaid?" They laughed and said I didn't need a bandaid. I felt cheated. That afternoon my arm was sore so I know I really did get it. Weird.
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#194883 - 11/30/09 09:40 AM
Re: Swine Flu Controversy
[Re: jabber]
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I received a letter this week saying that I was in the "at risk patients" in my group practice so advised to have the vacination.I have made the appointment.I surely dont want side effects but will scedule no appointments in the following days and lay low.. I do not pay for this due to our N.H.S.
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#195959 - 12/15/09 07:32 PM
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I have had swine flu and IMO it wasn't anything near or close to annual. I was given tamiflu and had a realy bad reaction to it(pill form, we have a saying in our house...if she hasn't got it...she'll have it ordered!!)Nontheless, I have been asked to come in for the shot specifically for swine flu. I also went into an anifalactic(sp?) shock with last years bog standard jab and my GP sent a car to Uni to pick me up....so I am a tad warey about having this one...can ya get swine flu more than once as we have one kid down with it again in this house? I fall into high risk category but most that I know who have had it say the same as me. I was quarrantined and had a masked 'flu freind' at my beck and call. I suppose it hits everyone in different ways?
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#195961 - 12/15/09 07:34 PM
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Oh, if anyone needs it, tamilfu that is....I have a box going spare with only two out of them..
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#196425 - 12/23/09 02:24 PM
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[Re: Poppie]
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Loc: Daytona Beach, Florida
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Did you hear about the H1N1 recall? They found out it doesn't last long enough in the human system to make a difference.
It's finally available at Walgreens and I'm sure glad I didn't spend the money.
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#197447 - 01/10/10 02:58 PM
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#197703 - 01/14/10 12:47 AM
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I didn't get a flue shot this year and took my chances . I do keep those hand santizers in my purse , got quite a few of them from my hubby for christmas from Bath and Body . Lovely scents and really enjoy them . I think maybe that is why I didn't get a cold ( knock on wood ) this year . How about you ?
Sadie
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