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#191433 - 10/09/09 05:29 PM Wicked Toothache
Dotsie Offline
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First, let me share how much I hate the dentist. I'd rather go to any doctor in the world than go to a dentist.

My childhood dentist worked on my mouth without novacaine. I remember gripping those arm rests and boosting my butt out of the chair everytime he hit a nerve. It was awful.

Then to top it off, as an adult, I once had a dentist who couldn't get my mouth numb. I was in and out of his chair for about an hour and a half, never having the work done. He kept giving me more shots, even had another dentist come try. My legs were shaking, heart pounded and fluttered and I was a wreck. I eventually went home, and when I explained to Ross what went on, he put me on the couch and had me prop my feet up to relax. He said I was having a reaction to the epinephrine and cold have had a heart attck.

So that's why I don't like the dentist.

I'll make a long story short.

Off and on this week, I've had horrendous pain in my mouth that radiates up to my nose.

Whenever I lay down to sleep, I'll doze and then the pain wakes me up, and it's wicked. I'd get up, pace all over the house and it would go away. Weird. Up and down all night. Last night I slept in the basement because I didn't want to keep anyone else up.

I couldn't put my finger on the exact tooth, but knew something was going on.

I went to the dentist yesterday and he took x-rays, but couldn't find anything. He thought I might need a root canal.

He sent me off to an endodontist whom I'd never met and I was a wreck. I listened to my Christian music in the car and it did no good. My heart was pounding, I was hot flashing, my stomach was a mess. I couldn't get a hold of myself.

I then jumped in the dentist chair, share what a wreck I am, and why, and he promised not to hurt me. He had to finish with another patient and he'd be back.

I took my little prayer book out of my purse and found something that gave me peace.FInally, my heart slowed down a bit, and I was able to relax.

He did all the tests, like hot/cold sensitivity, tapping, etc., and couldn't find anything. He did another x-ray and still couldn't find anything.

Here's the scoop. He asked me if I was stressed. I shared that Dad was in the hospital and that my FIL had a rough week at the Alzheimer's home, etc.

He believes this is because I'm clenching my teeth. He gave me an antibiotic just in case there was a sinus infection or a gum infection they were missing and sent me home with these instructions:

Every hour, stop, take two deep breaths, swallow and make sure your teeth aren't together.

Before bedtime, repeat, "I will not clench my teeth," ten times.

And you know what? I think he's onto something.

Last night was better after 3:30, and today's been a bit better too.

I'll keep you posted.

Just wanted to share in case this happens to anyone else.

Deep breath, deep breath, swallow and relax mouth. You better beleive I"m doing this. And everytime I went back to sleep last night, I said, "I will not clench my teeth," ten times.
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#191440 - 10/09/09 05:56 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: ]
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Anne, thanks. Tooth pain is horrendous. You are so right.

Hubby is an optometrist, but often mistaken for a dentist.

Oh, I like the positive spin. I'll share that with im when I go back next week.

Sounds like we've has similar experience with the novacaine. Crazy, isn't it?


My dentists in my adult years offer nitrous oxide and I swear by it. It toally relaxes me. They also give me head sets to listen to music which drowns out the drill noise, which rattles me. Gentle denistry is the way to go.

Thanks for your thoughts. I appreciate them.

Deep breath, deep breath, swallow, and relax teeth! I think it's working.

And it makes sense. I'd get the pain as soon as i'd fall asleep, get up, walk around (probably relaxing my mouth) and it would go away. Repeat 100 times and that's the kind of nights I've been having. Waaah, waaah, waaah!
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#191520 - 10/11/09 05:57 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: ]
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I'm still hanging in here with sporadic painful episodes. I definitely have to do soemthing different about this tomorrow because not too much has changed.

Anyone ever slept with a mouth guard?
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#191521 - 10/11/09 06:59 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Dotsie]
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Dotsie, I can so relate. I've been having that kind of toothache for about a month. Dentist did x-rays, couldn't find anything that was causing the pain, put me on antibiotics just in case. He sent me to the periodontist, who said there was a pocket of calcified tarter just below the gumline behind the lower back molar that may be causing the pain. So Tuesday I go in for a root-planing - I'm NOT looking forward to it at all.

Also, I can't take the Novocaine with the epinephrine in it. And I can't tolerate nitrous, either. There are local anesthetics without the epinephrine, and I always ask the dentist to use those. My biggest problem is the sound of the drill - it slices through my whole body like a knife and vibrates all my bones. Music doesn't block it out, so I try the breathing/relaxation, which mostly works. So a trip to the dentist is quite the ordeal for me. I didn't go for so many years, and now I'm paying for it!

I haven't used a mouth guard - yet. But I will have to wear some kind of stabilizer at night because my lower front teeth are crooked and have shifted. Some days, when the pain is really bad, I'm tempted to call the dentist and tell him to pull 'em all! But then the pain goes away for a while.
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#191523 - 10/11/09 07:13 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: yonuh]
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Dotsie, could the pain be from your jaw? I used to clench my teeth a lot when I was in my late teens and used mouth guard at night. However, the relief it offered me was only for the duration I was asleep and not in the daytime when I needed it most. I used to clench my teeth a lot when I was studying and actually caused damage to my jaw...i.e. "clicking". Might help to have that checked out, especially if your dental check-up eliminated dental problems. Do you grind your teeth at night?
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#191525 - 10/11/09 07:22 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Lola]
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Dotsie, so sorry to hear about your toothache. I think I mentioned this before; toothaches or earaches are the worst pains ever. I rather give birth to twins then go through that again. I remember sitting up through the night and drugging myself with whisky and aspirin. The only thing that helped was when the dentist pulled the tooth. They discovered a mean old abscess at the root.

Lola, very interesting that you should mention teeth grinding. I do that! How did you ever stop?
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#191529 - 10/11/09 07:35 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Edelweiss3]
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Wearing a mouth guard helps with teeth grinding, EW. In so far as one does not grind (wear down) the teeth. However, the jaw motion is still there. I found that sleeping on my side with a hand tucked under the side of the face minimises grinding but, not clenching.

You're right about toothache. Heck! Give me child birth anyday.
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#191589 - 10/12/09 05:46 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Lola]
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yonuh, do you have earphones? Listen to music so you can't hear the drill. It works.

For an update:

Ross has diagnosed me. He believes I have Trigeminal Neuralgia. He's witnessed the tremendous, sporadic pain I'm in that comes and goes without any rhyme or reason. After showing me the diagram of where the pain is on the face, and all the internet has to say about it, I'm convinced he's right.

So I called my endodotist to run it by him, and he hasn't called me back. I called the doctor who removed a tumor on the same side of the face where the pain is, and he gave me a neuroligist's number. Called him. He can't see me until November 9th. HELLO! I'm in crazy pain here. Called my general practitioner and they are still out to lunch. I'm hoping to speak with him soon, get an appointment, and get on the right medication to get some releif. It's all began last Monday night. I'm happy to report that I slept through the night last night, but have had episodes today that ahve sent me moaning and groaning!

The endodontist said I was clenching. He sent me howm with these instructions, and I think they help. While grinding doesn't hlep what I have, it's not the only thing going on for me.

Here's what you do:

Every hour - take two deep breaths, swallow, and set your jaw making sure your teeth aren't touching.

Teeth should only touch when you chew!

Then, before falling asleep, say 10 times - I will not clench my teeth.

It's helping with the teeth clenching, but I'm still getting pain for the other reasons.
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#191591 - 10/12/09 05:47 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Dotsie]
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Calling doctor now. They must be back from lunch because the line is busy. Go figure. It would probably be faster for me to drive to his office to make the appt. Honestly.
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#191597 - 10/12/09 06:11 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: ]
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Oh you poor thing Dotsie. I find it amazing that you can type at your computer. I pray it's not Trigeminal Neuralgia.
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#191617 - 10/12/09 07:46 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Edelweiss3]
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I just googled it, Dotsie. I pray that it is not TN as well. Please keep us updated.
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#191628 - 10/13/09 12:07 AM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Lola]
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I have TN. Have had it for years. I'm happy to report that it has gotten much better and less painful over time, but I went thru at least 10 years of on and off misery. I hope you don't go thru what I went thru. I had teeth pulled, had sinus surgery, wore a night guard, you name it. I even had gamma knife surgery (supposed to kill the nerve that was causing the pain, it's a form of brain surgery). Believe it or not for some reason it got way better after I had a hysterectomy! But before that they had me try all kinds of drugs, including a blood pressure med and an antidepressant. I had my hysterectomy in 2001, the TN got way better after that (one doc said it was the pain had been due to hormonal flucuations -- they called it hormonal migraines) and that's why they hysterectomy helped (had the hyst for other reasons -- typical female problems). I went off the antidepressants after that, and now only take a low dose of a blood pressure med, which seems to keep me out of that TN pain most of the time, unless I'm under a lot of pressure or stress. I'll be glad to help you in any way I can. Please feel free to email me or whatever. I know TN is misery, from long experience with it, and pray that the steps you're taking help you out and this is a short-lived episode of the problem. Believe me, I've been there and done that.
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#191638 - 10/13/09 11:34 AM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: CrosstitchQueen]
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Dotsie
WOW
I have after several doctor appointments been diagnosd with trigeminal neuralgia.This came after my reoccuring shingles and the unwell time six weeks ago.
I considered a dental check up but have recently had my check..this has been the most awful time..eye issue..ear particularly.But the headache on one part of my head is the worst in my whole life..
INTERESTINGLY..I met a friend from my home street and school and she has had the same.although close we dont see each other that often..as she was discussing her episode it sounded so like my own that I really wondered about our childhood ailments in particular chickenpox..and our immunity.
I visit my naturopath later this month and will see what he suggests.meantime I have one suppliment for cold sore prevention and rest well.
Take care and like me get a second opinion..my family have been solid in their help...thanks be for that.

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#191640 - 10/13/09 01:15 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Mountain Ash]
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Interesting to hear others here have had/have this.

CQ, gracious, have you been through it or what? Please don't tell me 10 years. It's been a week and I'm about out of my mind. Is/was it on one side of your face? And the pain comes from out of nowhere? The problem now is that I'm not getting as much relief as I first did. It really came and went, and I felt fine when I wasn't having an episode. Now there seems to be a dull ache all the time. Sometimes in my gums, sometimes my temple, or left side of my nose; feeling like a sinus infection. I already took a Z pack just in case it was infection, but I'm convinced it's TN after reading the article Ross printed offline. I haven't read anything else about it because I don't want to scare myself. I read that people have had tooth extractions unnecessarily thinking it was a tooth problem. Egads!

CQ, so you still have it a bit?

MA, what are you doing about it now? Are you walking around with this pain?

I have an appt with my primary care physician this morning. I'm hoping he's treated this before and will prescribe, but he may send me to a neurologist, or for an MRI. Life goes on...
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#191643 - 10/13/09 02:21 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Dotsie]
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CQ, the information I have from online mentions your surgery. Holy Moly. I can't believe it didn't work. How many doctors have you seen for this?

Fortunately, I think Ross is onto something before I had to endure too many visits, or tooth extractions, etc. TIme will tell.

The sad thing is that it seems to have gotten worse the last few days. Before, I could get total relief. Now there seems to be a dull ache/throb constantly. It's weird, but I think wearing glasses makes it worse. I wear glasses when I work online. Yikes.

MA, hope you're having a good day!
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#191657 - 10/13/09 03:26 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Dotsie]
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This started as throat virus..then got complicated.seven weeks on..I am told only time will help and do feel somewhat better only to have "WHAM" hit me.Remaining happy and loved..which matters.
I could get a model head and discect saying not here.. not here..then show you the segments that hurt.My eye would not cry...then when it did it was like Niagra..
The tree nerves that are involved radiate...the lower one has improved..I was drooling..yuk...but the ear and eye area are my worst.
do take care that the dentist knows all about the problem.

seems when my virus hits the trigeminal nerve it was off to painland for me.
My friend got antiviral in time.(within a time frame from the rash on her neck)yet was sent immediatly to neurology.the Doctors there gave steroids.
.My case was too far on track to gain from the steroids..I have very strong pain relief...managing with less today..








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#191660 - 10/13/09 04:21 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Mountain Ash]
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It was many years ago that this started for me -- probably when I was between 35 and 45 -- I may not have all my facts straight and hopefully treatment and diagnosis has gotten better since then. I started with my dentist. He couldn't find anything wrong and eventually gave me a bite splint to wear -- first at night but then I didn't get much improvement and I had to wear it during the day too (mine fit inside my lower teeth and I could talk with it I just couldn't eat with it -- it looked a lot like those Invisalign braces but was fit on the inside of my lower teeth). That dentist eventually diagnosed me with TMJ and sent me to a specialist for that. I went to see him periodically and he would adjust the bite splint (regrinding surfaces and whatever) and also gave me pain meds (I lived on darvasette at the time) and muscle relaxers to help keep me from grinding my teeth when I slept. Grinding at night is a vicious cycle..........you grind your teeth, it causes pain, which causes you to grind your teeth more,which causes more pain, and so on. Yes there were times I wanted to put a gun to my head and pull the trigger. I actually went so far as to get the gun out of the cabinet one day but my husband had hidden the bullets and came home to find me in a heap on the floor crying because I just didn't want to live with the pain anymore. Eventually I was sent to a ENT who told me the whole problem was my sinuses and talked me into sinus surgery. Well, my sinus headaches got better (that was NOT a pleasant surgery believe me) but my TN/TMJ pain remained the same. I saw a chiropracter. I was in so much pain after she worked on me I never went back. I saw a neurologist who had me try several meds, mostly anti-spasm meds. All had awful side effects, I had an allergic reaction to some. Eventually I was told there was nothing else that could be done and they sent me to a pain clinic. I finally found some help there. They actually gave me a test where they injected morphine directly into the trigeminal nerve area. Didn't touch the pain. They kept adding more and asking "are you still in pain?" and I'd just nod my head with tears rolling down my face. They put me on an antidepressant which was also used for nerve pain -- Elavil (it was about all they had back then). I gained weight like crazy on it, but it seemed to help the pain, or at least helped me live with it. Then one of my docs saw an article where TN patients where helped by blood pressure meds. They put me on Verapamil along with the Elavil. Finally, things started getting better, but not great. That's when they scheduled the Gamma knife surgery. They said there'd be no after effects -- ha!! for weeks afterwards I felt like someone was driving nails into the top of my head. They'd call from the hospital wanting to know if I'd had any improvement and were always surprised when I said no. Gamma knife can take from 6 months to 2 years to have results. In my case, it took 2 years. They try to kill the pain-causing nerve, so it depends on how it heals, or something like that. I lived with a lot of pain all during most of those years that all this went on. Doctors visits were endless. Anyway, I had to have a hysterectomy in Jan 2001. A couple of weeks into recovery from that, I realized, the pain in my jaw/ear area was much much better than it used to be. Well I was so scared that it was going to return, that I was afraid to quit taking the Elavil or the Verapamil. I waited a year and said ok........I didn't like the side effects of the Elavil so my doc said it was ok to wean myself off it, which I did, and that went fine, I didn't need it. When I tried going off the Verapamil completely, I started having some pain again, so we ended up just cutting that dose in half, and I still take it to this day.
It's been almost 9 years since my hysterectomy. Most of the time I'm fine. During times of extreme stress (when my dog died last week and I cried for 24 hours straight for example while I'm having an allergic reaction to the stitches used in my foot for bunion surgery and it's been 2 months and it's not healing and so on) it flares up, but I know it's only temporary and if I can zap it with 600 mg Advil before it gets bad, and chill out for a while (beach days do wonders) it goes away. The majority of the time, I'm fine. I can feel when it's coming on, and I know what to do when it's coming, but sometimes, nothing much helps and I just have to ride it out for a few days.

There used to be a support group for TN sufferers, The Trigeminal Neuralgia association. I'll look and see if I can find a link for you. I used to get their newsletter, but I found for some reason I really couldn't relate so I stopped getting it..........everybody's pain and results were different and it just didn't click for me if you know what I mean, but it might help you out.

Don't give up. Many times I wanted to, but things did get better (although in my case it took a long long long time, thank God for my husband he was my rock during all that time) and while I wouldn't wish what I went thru on anyone, I can only tell you that you have to keep trying til you find what works for you.

Oh one final thing -- when I got off the Elavil I dropped 30 lbs and have never gained it back. And yes I went to the gym thru all the stuff I mentioned above, and traveled with my husband, and tried to keep going the best as I could...........it helped to take my mind off the pain. So do what you can, but if you're in too much pain to do whatever, that's ok too. You have to deal with it in whatever way works for you, but don't give up on trying to find help.
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#191661 - 10/13/09 04:29 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: CrosstitchQueen]
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With all I wrote above, you'd think I'd covered it, but I forgot a few things.

yes Dotsie the pain was always only on the left side of my face. My ear, my gums, my sinuses, my teeth, the left side of my neck (which is muscle spasm caused my contracting because of being in constant pain).

I don't want to be discouraging, but there is no easy answer to TN pain. It may take some time to find what works for you. Let us know how it went with your appt this morning. I hate to hear that you're dealing with this. I know firsthand how awful it can be. I'll be interested in hearing what your primary care physician had to say or if he prescribed anything.

BTW I have worn glasses since 3rd grade -- never could make the switch to contacts, although I tried -- and wouldn't be surprised if there's a connection.
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#191662 - 10/13/09 04:31 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: CrosstitchQueen]
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Here's the link to the TN Association:

http://www.fpa-support.org/
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#191665 - 10/13/09 04:59 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: CrosstitchQueen]
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Oh my God. Ladies this is terrible. I never even knew of this illness. Now I know it can trigger shingles, which I think was in my mother's case as well. But she doesn't have TN anymore.

Dotsie, thank you for posting that list about how to cope with grinding teeth. There are some very good suggestions, and I am following them.
I've been thinking about you alot today. How are you?
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#191669 - 10/13/09 05:51 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Edelweiss3]
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In my case the shingles re occuring started the T N.
shingles virus can be in our system since childhood chickenpox.

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#191741 - 10/14/09 11:49 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Mountain Ash]
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If you think you could get shingles and none of us is immune call your doctor for a shot of ZOSTAVAX. It is magic, it works and there are virtually no side effects.
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#191912 - 10/16/09 06:12 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: chatty lady]
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Sorry I haven't updated this. Must have been the Percocet.

I went to the doctor on Tuesday and he agreed with Ross's diagnosis. He gave me Prednisone and Percocet for an acute stage of Trigenimal Nueralgia and told me I needed to see a neurologist. My appt. with the neurologist is next Friday. I'm hoping this is all gone by next Friday!

Tuesday was my absolute worse day. I had no relief from pain until the doctor prescribed, I took the meds and went to bed. They have been miracle workers - those meds.

I'm praying that since it was diagnosed right way (as you heard, some people aren't diagnosed for a year or so)that it will be short lived.

If not, I learned from a friend of a friend, that Dr. Ben Carson at Hopkins does a needle injection that places medication at the root of the nerve and it will settle it for years. People come from all over the world for him to do this procedure. I understand he's in the process of teaching other surgeons this procedure. He's a remarkable man whose specialty is pediatric neurology. He's the one who has separated siamese twins connected at the head.

Anyway, That's the latest scoop. Thanks for all the PMs, emails, and prayers. They have certainly hleped.

If anyone has questions about this condition, please feel free to ask me. I'm learning a lot quickly.

CrossstitchQueen, I'm so sorry you had to suffer with this all those years. Have you heard of Ben Carson?

Mountain, how are you feeling?
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#191919 - 10/16/09 07:36 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Dotsie]
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Lessening this week and taking less pain relief.I have not had steroid but if there is any further flare I shall see Doctor right away.Our friend and neighbour agrees its a very painful issue and says the fact I have improved since two weeks means what I am doing is working.Late October I go to the city to the naturopath and will ask there.I follow a wide spectrum of healing modes.
the residue pain is a heavy dull ache unlike the acute mind blowing headache.
I am impressed with your treatment Dotsie.Lets hope we leave this soon

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#191941 - 10/16/09 10:08 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Dotsie]
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They have a soft plastic device Dotsie that you put into your mouth at bedtime. It keeps one from clenching their teeth no matter how hard they try. It works wonders and has been around for sometime now so your dentise ought to know about it. Hoping you feel better soon.

I am so scared of the dentist that in Illinois a friend of mine who's a dentist use to tell the story at parties that he had to come out to the parking lot to give me gas just to get me into his office. Thats a joke of course, but not too far from the truth.
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#191954 - 10/17/09 07:11 AM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: chatty lady]
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All of my friends here, who are in pain, I hold in my prayers.

And thank God for those meds, Dotsie! Will be thinking of you on Friday when you visit the neurologist.
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#192132 - 10/20/09 02:23 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Edelweiss3]
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No, I hadn't heard of Ben Carson, but I haven't been keeping up with the latest on TN. Like I said, all that happened to me years ago, and I only have an occaisonal problem now and then, and it's not enough that I would consider having any kind of medical procedure for it. Advil takes care of it these days. What he's doing sounds wonderful, hopefully it gets good results for the majority of his patients.

And part of my problem is that all of that led me to not trust most doctors. Several of them, specialists in their fields, said they'd "cure" me and get rid of the pain, and it didn't happen. I'd get my hopes up each time, only to be disappointed. I may have a small bout of pain or discomfort now and then (and it's pretty rare, and only during times of severe stress) but it's not enough to make me seek out medical help. I think in my case, eventually a combination of procedures that had been done plus a combination of meds plus other circumstances finally got me relief from the pain, but it sure can be a long, miserable road. I am 99% better than I was in the days I was dealing with all that, and have been way better for many years now.

Dotsie, hope you're feeling better, let us know how your appt with the neurologist goes. By the way, I have known people who've had TN flare-ups that have come and gone and never happened to them again. Praying you'll be one of the lucky ones, and that you find relief soon. What I really hope is that you don't have to go thru a bunch of crap and misery to find what works for you to take care of this.
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#192267 - 10/22/09 03:52 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: CrosstitchQueen]
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Dotsie,
I've been meaning to come in this thread and tell you I'm praying for you in this situation. I'm sorry you've had to
suffer with this thing. Some of these painful things are too,
too much. God bless. Prayers and blessings,

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#192269 - 10/22/09 04:16 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: jabber]
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Jeez, Dotsie, I just read about your terrible experience. I hope you get some relief soon.

I did a 3-part blog series on teeth grinding because so many people are stressed out from the recession, job loss, home loss, and adult children moving back home.

Sounds like you found the right guy. Mouth guards are supposed to help.
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#192611 - 10/26/09 01:35 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Saundra]
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I don't like going to the dentist, either Dotsie. I go every
4 months, but I hate it. They're monitoring jaw deterioration
and that's why I go so often. But I hate it. Hope your pain
has eased up by now. Prayers and blessings,

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#192619 - 10/26/09 02:20 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: jabber]
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Dotsie, how are you feeling? Hopefully pain free.

Jabber, isn't jaw deterioration sort of like osteoporosis? I would read up on osteoporosis prevention. Certain vitamins can prevent and or even heal. Good thing you are under reg. dental care.
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#192676 - 10/27/09 01:21 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Edelweiss3]
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Ed3,
I was on Actonel for years; until my SIL told me many women
suffer from jaw deterioration due to osteoporosis meds. I think Saundra has done research along these lines. Decades upon decades I had a large space, where 2 teeth had been extracted when I was very young. I switched dentists and the newest dentist suggested I have implants put in because the other teeth, top and bottom, were trying to compensate for the space and were pushing towards the area to close the gap. I had the implants and that corrected the problem. But they're still monitoring the jawbone to make sure it hasn't kept on deteriorating. Thank God, thus far, everything is fine. And it was 5 years ago, that I had the implants, implanted. But yes. Ed3, a weak bone density test, provoked the GYN to start me on Actonel.


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#193018 - 11/01/09 03:55 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: jabber]
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EW, I'm totally better except for a back, top tooth which feels like it's too big. I'm thinking my gum could still be a bit swollen. It gets better all the time and causes no pain. THanks for asking.
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#207099 - 08/26/10 01:46 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Dotsie]
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As an update, since we're posting about this again in another thread, those medicines prescribed were miracle workers. I believe that since I was diagnosed so early on and didn't have to live with the pain all that long, it worked immediately.

I went to the neurologist and he said it must have been TN. Since that treatment worked, he said he'd do the same thing again, but that isn't how he typically treats it. I should have asked him what medicines he used, but was so thrilled to get that exam over, that I never asked.

The tooth in the back of my mouth on the top left, stayed weird for a bit. It felt too big for my mouth. I think my gum must have been swollen. It eventually went back in place after many weeks. NOthing since. Hoping this post can help everyone suffering!
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#207149 - 08/28/10 12:08 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Dotsie]
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My Gosh..I knew nothing about all of this! I guess I better get some dentist work done. I have been putting it off for ages because I donīt like dentists either- Not at all!

I am so glad that you are feeling better, Dotsie! What an experience!

HUGS!
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#207291 - 09/01/10 10:13 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Edelweiss3]
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Dotsie,

Steve is feeling much better today, tooth pain wise, but he ended up having to have a tooth pulled yesterday. It was cracked, and no one can say when or how it might have broken. So I'm sure he wasn't ahving the same challenges you have been experiencing, but he WAS clenching his teeth at night.

Hope you are feeling better...

Anne
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#208255 - 10/08/10 12:53 AM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: Anne Holmes]
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I am still fightinhg my broken nasty painful tooth but when it hurts I take lots of vitamin C in supplement form and the npain is gone in half an hour but I know the Dentist is in my future. I am terrified of him...
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#208396 - 10/13/10 01:31 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: chatty lady]
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I hear ya, Chatty. I don't like dentist either, or doctors', or physical tests, or any of that stuff!


Edited by jabber (10/14/10 01:38 PM)

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#208397 - 10/13/10 02:49 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: jabber]
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I always hated the dentist - don't know why but it may have something to do with my keen sense of hearing and the drill sounds echoing through my whole body. But I have finally found a good dentist and periodontist who are very patient and gentle. It makes a big difference!
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#208426 - 10/14/10 01:40 PM Re: Wicked Toothache [Re: yonuh]
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yonuh,
The word [gentle] is what drew me to my current dentist. And
every employee there is very careful to be gentle in all they
do. I don't mind it so much any more.

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