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#101640 - 01/04/07 03:10 PM Numbers Down
Dianne Offline
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Registered: 05/24/04
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Read a short newspaper article on the flight to NV that said dv rates are actually down this last year. Maybe all of this education and speaking out are finally working!
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#101641 - 01/04/07 03:58 PM Re: Numbers Down [Re: Dianne]
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Registered: 07/02/03
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And YOU are one of the main catalyst for the drop in rates. That has to make your heart swell. Thank you for all you do Dianne.

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#101642 - 01/04/07 07:45 PM Re: Numbers Down [Re: jawjaw]
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Registered: 06/23/06
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May it continue to drop, Dianne. I think attitude towards DV is now changing because of all the information and support that is now available. As JJ said, YOU are one of the catalyst.
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#101643 - 01/04/07 07:55 PM Re: Numbers Down [Re: Lola]
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That is wonderful! Yea!
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#101644 - 01/04/07 08:21 PM Re: Numbers Down [Re: Jane_Carroll]
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Registered: 09/15/05
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Great news! You must be smiling all over knowing that you played a big part in this news.

I wonder with all the information available, more arrests and stronger sentencing, if some men are beginning to change? I hope so.

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#101645 - 01/04/07 08:28 PM Re: Numbers Down [Re: Anno]
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You'd be surprised at the attitude in London, Anno. From what I have witnessed, men are the ones who would come to the aid of any woman being accosted by their partner in public.
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#101646 - 01/04/07 09:16 PM Re: Numbers Down [Re: Lola]
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Lola, I've worked with WAFE in England and the male response to dv is not very good. They have a very strong group of men who really fight the system. Most of the advocates (female) are scared to death of them!
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#101647 - 01/04/07 09:42 PM Re: Numbers Down [Re: Dianne]
Lola Offline
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Thanks for the info, Dianne. By any chance, would the men who fight the system be the offenders? Those I have witnessed were of bystanders who took it upon themselves to stop the attacks on women in public whether verbally or physically (slaps in the face). I dread to imagine what goes on behind closed doors. And shamefully, I must admit, I am one of those women easily frightened by these bullies.

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#101648 - 01/04/07 10:23 PM Re: Numbers Down [Re: Lola]
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No shame there, Lola.

Bystanders that step up can make quite a difference. Generally, bystanders are part of the problem in cases of bullying. Glad to hear that you have seen bystanders that take a positive stand.

What is WAFE?

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#101649 - 01/05/07 02:34 AM Re: Numbers Down [Re: Anno]
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Registered: 11/11/04
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Loc: Colorado
One of the reasons the numbers are down may be that in some states, someone goes to jail. Say a couple is in the throes of DV, and someone from the house calls the cops. The cops go to the house, and one of them goes to jail. If there is a call, there is a trip to jail. Sometimes the woman who has been beaten goes to jail. I've seen women at the DV agency covered with bruises, who came to the agency after spending a night in the cell. The call was made during the DV, the cops get to the house, the real offender is way too clever in talking his way out of it, she won't press charges on him, so HE presses charges on HER, and she, the victim goes to jail. At the agency I hear that women don't report becauase of the ramifications. Reporting is where the numbers come from. Numbers have nothing to do with real world DV. Women hide, run, live in their cars, live on the streets, or put up with DV because HE has not stopped. I'm sorry to be so cynical. In the USA versus UK, I wouldn't dare stand up to a bully because here, anyone could pull out a gun at any time.

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