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#101327 - 01/02/07 12:02 AM New Year good luck food
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Since moving to the South, I learned that we're supposed to eat greens and black-eyed peas on New Year's day for good luck. I never heard about this in Canada or California. Will all you Southerners please enlighten me.
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#101328 - 01/02/07 02:41 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: Saundra]
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You can have my share of "greens!" Ewwwww. Nasty stuff and it rates right up there with hominy to me. Yuck!

There should be hotlines for that kind of foods so people could call and get help before they ate that stuff. Ewwww.

I love black-eyed peas though and could eat my weight in them. (I heard that! Take it back!)

Why not just eat Oreos....life is simple. Or should be ... Yes?

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#101329 - 01/02/07 03:39 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: jawjaw]
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Saundra,

I went to my mother's today for collards (took the tiniest bite possible) hog jowl (even tinier bite) peas (ate lots...but not JJ's weight...don't hit me!) corn (yum-o) and of course corn bread!

The greens are for money and I'm not sure exactly what the rest are specifically for...good health...prosperity...I think the gist of the practice is to eat humbly in the beginning of the year to allow prosperity to come to you...

Hey it could work...so eat some collards and buy a lottery ticket...see what happens!
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#101330 - 01/02/07 03:57 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: Jane_Carroll]
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and sit close to a toliet....Jane forgot to mention about the "cleansing" effect that "greens" have on people. Another Ewwwww!

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#101331 - 01/04/07 12:42 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: jawjaw]
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JJ, I love greens. I just can't cook 'em right so I got a can (Glory brand - tasted just like in the restaurants but cheaper). Still have some left over. Can't remember eating special food anywhere else in the country for good luck. Hope it works, Jane.
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#101332 - 01/04/07 01:12 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: Saundra]
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I think my mom's family (Irish) ate pickled herring on New Year's Eve now that you mention special foods.

We don't do greens and peas. No way!
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#101333 - 01/04/07 10:47 PM Re: New Year good luck food
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JJ, that one half of a bite I ate didn't have those results! You go Saundra...you'll have money and greens running out your ears!
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#101334 - 01/04/07 10:49 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: Jane_Carroll]
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That ain't even close, Saundra....

Dots, what's pickled herring...is that fish? Pickled fish? Does it produce the same effects as pickled eggs? If so, I bet they didn't need any fireworks.....what?

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#101335 - 01/05/07 05:54 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: jawjaw]
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pickled herring is thick slices of herring in a pickle brine, maybe with a few onions or garlic pieces. It comes in a little glass jar. Herring is sorta like mackeral.

Dotsie, I had no idea that Irish folks ate that. I thought it was more German/Scandinavian. There's a herring brand called Lassco -- not quite my name, but pretty close.
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#101336 - 01/05/07 07:45 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: meredithbead]
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They have pickled herring in London as well. It's called "rolled mop" here. Have not had it though. I was told, rolled mop, jellied eel, pickled onions, pickled eggs, alongside pie & mash and fish & chips used to be traditional fares in London.

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#101337 - 01/05/07 12:25 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: Lola]
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Maybe all Irish people don't eat it, but my mom and her family did. Maybe they inherited it from German friends or something. Who knows? All I know is that I never had the guts to try it.
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#101338 - 01/05/07 08:37 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: Lola]
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Here's another new year's day good luck recipe, but my husband likes it at anytime of the year.

Ham & Beans

1 pound of navy beans
2 smoked ham hocks
1 quart of chicken broth
1-2 thick slices of onion
1 garlic clove, chopped

In a large bowl of water, soak the beans over night at room temperature. Next morning, drain the beans. Place drained beans in a crock-pot and add the ham hocks, chicken broth, and onion & garlic. Cover and cook on low for about 5 hours, or until beans are tender. If salt is needed, salt beans at this point. Serve with hot buttered corn bread. Deeee-lish!

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#101339 - 01/05/07 11:13 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: Cookie]
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Now ya talkin' Cookie! That's my kind of meal. (Mouth watering here...)

Lola, I would have a hard time feasting on something called "rolled mop." I'd keep looking at the one in the corner of my kitchen....mop. Jellied eel? Again, no, no, no, freakin' way...You couldn't pay me. Pickled onions, pickled eggs, alongside pie & mash - I'm in. Bring it on! Oh...mash is mash potatoes, right?

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#101340 - 01/06/07 12:08 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: Lola]
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I have eaten pickled herring all my life and love it. We just call it herring. It's in almost every market everywhere. JJ, no fireworks! Funny how some specialy foods are everywhere yet we think it's only our country or our people.
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#101341 - 01/06/07 09:40 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: Saundra]
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It's mashed potatoes, JJ. We'd be safe with that one. I eat eels though but only when it's sushi. Oh, I have been corrected by a visiting Brit in my home...it's rollmop. Tomayto, tomahto...I say, I say...a red herring to me.

Hi, Saundra: I've never had herring and have had only pickled anchovies and love them especially in the way they are prepared in Italy and Spain. Pickled herrings are actually sold at street kiosks in Scandinavian countries very much like we would come across hotdog stands in the States. Eaten on the go as well. I'm probably prepped up to try it in the future.

And, as a most peculiar chap, my Brit friend sings:

"You shall have a fishy
On a little dishy
When the boat comes in."
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#101342 - 01/06/07 11:43 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: Lola]
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Christmas Eve at our familys home was always smelts. Had to have fried smelts and pasta of course, we are Italian after all. They have pickled herring and creamed herring in a white sause that is somewhat milder than the pickled. I am not crazy for either. Now mashed potatoes with real cream, butter and a bit of parsley and garlc, bring it on, I could eat a vat of the stuff, yum, yum....burp!


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#101343 - 01/06/07 01:30 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: chatty lady]
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In our house this is the good luck New Year's recipe.
www.gardenandhearth.com/gardencooking/georgian-recipes.htm
My husband's father is from the Republic of Georgia.
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#101344 - 01/06/07 03:22 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: TVC15]
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Chatty, what is smelt?

Robin, yum, yum, and more yum....that recipe is so simple! I could even do that. Wow...and it sounds so good. I got to quit reading your site! It's making me hungry. And they only lived to 95 and 100....humph! Cut down in their prime...I MUST make this!

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#101345 - 01/06/07 03:33 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: jawjaw]
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Hi JJ,
There were three siblings, his sister died a bit younger but not by much.
They eat very little sweets over there, so this is like a special treat when they have it.
They do eat a lot of fresh vegetables and not too much meat. In the recipe book I have the recipes use a lot of walnuts, and walnut oil. Oh, and pomagranite.
Our cousin's wife makes a salad she calls French Salad, but in the recipe book I have they call it something else. It's like potato salad but they also add cooked carrots and peas and pickles. (there's more but can't remember right now) It's very good.
The thing I found surprising is that their wine is very sweet, (the one I've tried anyway) I liked it a lot.
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#101346 - 01/06/07 03:39 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: TVC15]
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I bet reading that book was a treat in itself. I love reading all the different recipes, especially from other countries, don't you?

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#101347 - 01/06/07 03:59 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: jawjaw]
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Yes, I do JJ.
The one I bought not only contained recipes but information about their culture too. It was written by a Canadian woman who married a Georgian man and then went to live there.
My FIL didn't share much with us about Georgian ways, but when the cousins came we learned a lot and the book has filled in a lot of the blanks for me.
My MIL is from Italy and so the family mostly followed the Italian traditions.
On my side, we're like Heinz 57 varieties!

PS: the country is so small that hardly anyone has ever even heard of it. My son has, more than once, had to point it out on a map for his teachers!


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#101348 - 02/12/07 01:25 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: TVC15]
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I love pickled herring. Addictive.

As for collards...is that the same family as mustard greens? I eat alot of the fresh veggie stuff (cooked) from the Asian side, gai-lan, you choy, Shanghai bok choy, bok choy, etc. Some of the stuff is rich in all sorts of nutrients...that I never knew until a few years ago.

As for good luck food, we have seaweed soup, Chinese word is homonym on millionaire, hence eating it for prosperity. Yes, I do like seaweed...many types out there. It tastes like a fine linguine. That's all. If you like seafood, you will like sea vegetables, 'coz that's what it is.
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#101349 - 02/12/07 06:02 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: orchid]
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I am floored that so few of you like greens.
I'm thinking you haven't had them prepared properly. We mix them - mustards, collards and turnips. One of our favorite Christmas (not New Year) fares. For New Year we have green cabbage along with our black eyed peas. We also put our quarter over the doorsill. Mine fell down almost immediately after I placed it on the sill next to last years. It did so because my DH had to look out at some of the fireworks our neighbors were setting off at midnight. I took a piece of tape and taped it back up!

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#101350 - 02/12/07 12:04 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: gims]
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Never heard the quarter over rthe door deal before.
i love anything green and leafy. I remember pulling tender young turnip tops from the garden as a kid and Ummm Ummm they were good.

TVC, where in Canada was she from, any idea?

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#101351 - 02/13/07 07:12 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: chickadee]
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Since I eat mostly vegetarian, I'm up for most greens, except okra which I could never develop a taste for.

Orchid, I call that stuff "whatever choy" because I get whatever is on sale at the local Asian market but then can't remember what it's called when I get home LOL! Doesn't really matter, because everything in our house is stir fried regardless. I work at the farmers' market, and often take home surplus ("Here -- take home SIX bunches of mystery greens!") --- and they have names in a variety of languages which I don't remember either. My husband isn't terribly fond of greens, so when he asks "What is this?" I'll tell him it goes in stir-fry, which he seems to accept. -- even if the farmer told me it's used for Vietnamese soups, because Hubbo won't eat my veggie soups.

Sometimes I cook the greens for myself. Nuke them, and add feta cheese, dried cranberries and walnuts.
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#101352 - 02/13/07 06:36 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: meredithbead]
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Meredith, I can't do okra but I was introduced to pickled okra and it is really good. I could eat the whole bottle but limit myself to 3 pieces as a side with soup and sandwich.

What do you use to stirfry? Oil or broth?

How long do you nuke the greens? Sounds delicious.

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#101353 - 02/14/07 05:22 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: meredithbead]
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Quote:

I work at the farmers' market, and often take home surplus ("Here -- take home SIX bunches of mystery greens!") --- and they have names in a variety of languages which I don't remember either. My husband isn't terribly fond of greens, so when he asks "What is this?" I'll tell him it goes in stir-fry, which he seems to accept. -- even if the farmer told me it's used for Vietnamese soups, because Hubbo won't eat my veggie soups.

Sometimes I cook the greens for myself. Nuke them, and add feta cheese, dried cranberries and walnuts.




Great that he likes them fine also. Very healthy. Well, if you ever get offered bitter melon, just stir fry abit of it , you might want to soften the bitter zing with tofu.. It's high in lypocene.

Or fuzzy green melon is a tamer choice ...for savoury dishes..again stir fry.

True..I've eaten alot of different Asian greens that I don't even know English and Chinese names for 1/2 of what I eat....but I trusted dear momma to nurture us, feed us well.

If I eat too much roasted or baked veggies, I feel my ying-yang balance out of whack. So greens (and fresh fruit) always solve my problems.

There's a great recipe that we make that is a Swiss chard-spinach with feta cheese pie in phyllo crust. YOu ought to try using frozen phyllo sheets from store...just makes wonderful coverings for savory or sweet healthy things!

His daughter is starting to complain when she visits us..another different phyllo dish.

So easy to use phyllo yet with elegant, light results!
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#101354 - 02/14/07 06:21 AM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: orchid]
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Chick, I was introduced to okra when we lived in Oklahoma for 2 years. I was at a meeting pot-luck for new faculty wives, the talk was recipes, and EVERY recipe was okra-this and okra-that. I'm surprised no one brought okra ice cream or okra cake, because they put it in everything else. I took some recipes and tried them at home, but no matter how I cooked it, it still tasted like ... okra. I think it's an Oklahoma thing, because I've never seen much done with okra anywhere else. And I don't like pickles much, so pickling okra might just be too much of two bad things.

I stir-fry with a little canola oil and sometimes soy sauce. I may/may not add more sauce later. My cooking is an ethnic mishmosh, although my spice palate tends more towards Indian.

How long I nuke something depends on quantity and thickness. Thin leafy greens get only 3 minutes. Harder green veggies maybe 5-10.

Orchid, I got bitter melon once, and whatever I did with it, it was still too bitter for my tastes. Same farmer gave me fuzzy green melon as well, which I salted and stir-fried. I thought it was OK but not great, and Hubbo took one tiny bite and refused to eat it.

I eat one meal a day which is basically veggies and grain or rice. Usually dinner. Lunch typically is a generous amount of fruit(s) with maybe yogurt or nuts.

I've thought about using phyllo but it seems beyond my culinary skills.

When I went away to college, I didn't know the English names for half the foods my mother made. Which was bad, because I kept insisting to my friends and those kind clerks at the grocery store that those WERE English names, because our family always spoke English. Except for food, which had Yiddish names in our house, which I thought were English. DUH!
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#101355 - 02/14/07 02:22 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: meredithbead]
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Meredith, feta and nuts, now you're talking. I love cheese and nuts with veggies. YUM!

orchid, I have a Greek friend who makes wonderful spinach pie with phyllo dough. It also has feta cheese in it.
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#101356 - 02/14/07 10:10 PM Re: New Year good luck food
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Chick
I lost track of this post.
The back of the book says she divides her time between, Georgia and Vancouver, British Columbia.
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#101357 - 02/16/07 04:24 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: TVC15]
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Phyllo is really very easy to use. Just have to keep it moist and covered while working with it.
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#101358 - 02/18/07 09:27 PM Re: New Year good luck food [Re: Dianne]
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Meredith,
Did you try fried okra? Mmm Mmmm. I could eat my weight it that stuff. It is definately an Okie thang. It grows well here so if someone plants it in their garden they usually have too much. Oklahoma is one of the few states where you can get fried okra on the menu.

And as for collard greens. Don't eat them raw. I heard they are poisonous if not cooked.

Any one ever eaten poke salat (that's not a typo)? It grows wild here.

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