My father sold shoes for a living and I can fit a shoe on anyone , I learned from the master " My Dad" .. I have seen women that it drives me nuts if the shoes are to big for then and when you toe slides down in them you have gap of an inch . I have going to the shoe dept and in process of buying shoes , just fitted people up myself and helped . I love doing that .

Anyway, to get to your point of othotic in the shoes you will need a wider with . Easy spirit makes then they have a web site and "SAS" and we have a Van Dyke and Bacon shoe stor here that shoes you can where . I wear a Dr. Scholls jell heel pads in my shoes , for I have heel problems and this helps . As we get older our feet do widen and we need a wider with at times .

Hope this helps and good luck

Blessings,

Renee